Quote Originally Posted by bazookatooth View Post
Ermm... Sam still does crazy damage via skill chains. And I played BLM throughout ToaU without a problem. What did I have to change jobs for? Salvage and...
Unequip all of your gear, use only your Great Katana and see if you can replicate the initial 2-handed patch that allowed you to do full damage with no gear whatsoever on relevant content.

Quote Originally Posted by bazookatooth View Post
Dragons are not meant to tank, or even deal much damage for that matter. they support the master. Puppets actually tank quite well. Probably better than BST pets. Avatars can't tank well, but they are infinitely renewable and deal huge damage. PLD still tanks better than any pet. You made it sound like BST was OMG OP because it can pull hate off you. Any DD can do that. Whatever your point was, it was lost.
Jug pets tanked better than the 'tank frame' for PUP though. PUPs also have more to do to keep up (attachments.) Of course a PLD can still tank better...there would be a problem if it couldn't. Saltiness aside, if you played XI longer than 2 years, especially "old school XI" you know full well people don't bandwagon jobs just for the sake of it.

Quote Originally Posted by bazookatooth View Post
That's probably because people spread FUD all over the net about how pup sucks and other people believe it. Kind of like how you are basically telling everyone that they shouldn't play anything but bst right now.

Besides, the real tanking debate should be about the fact that PLD is miles ahead of NIN and RUN on everything but that stupid death rabbit in zitah.
That's not even really a debate though. PLD has always been and realistically should always be the "go to" tank and have been designed as such - which is why people always scream foul when it's incapable of properly tanking certain content. NIN was never meant to be a tank, but now they're trying to stick with the community design of it tanking it can't outdo PLD. RUN is in a weird spot because like DRK in XIV, it's extremely specialized but still works fine. And sadly, no not all pet jobs have been doing it as well as bst..again, there's a reason people bandwagoned to BST instead of SMN and PUP.