[dev1289] Job Adjustments

[Shirai]

And the roughly 1k+ HP you have more than mages means nothing? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Not sure what the problem is here exactly, because unlike what Olor wants to try to make me believe Beastmaster did not get a damage cut.
They're still able to do the same, but at the same time they have to take the same risk as any other melee DD out there.
In the end, Beastmaster needs to learn to rely on other jobs to help them. Which is, I do admit, quite revolutionary.

[bazookatooth]

And the roughly 1k+ HP you have more than mages means nothing? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Not sure what the problem is here exactly, because unlike what Olor wants to try to make me believe Beastmaster did not get a damage cut.
They're still able to do the same, but at the same time they have to take the same risk as any other melee DD out there.
In the end, Beastmaster needs to learn to rely on other jobs to help them. Which is, I do admit, quite revolutionary.

My GEO has about 125 less HP in idle gear than my BST. Where are you getting the other 850 from? Some game shark hack? And you are correct. As was previously stated numerous times, Beast pets still put out less damage than traditional Melee jobs, just like they always have.

EDIT: ACtually, I was missing my idle head piece when I did that comparison. My GEO has 49 less HP than my BST in idle set so...

[Jile]

BST have to choose. Def or atk or acc on either pet or themselves, and only one really of those six variables up at a time. This update proves only that whomever is doing this update does not play BST. Neither BST nor SMN belong on the frontline for relevant content, period.

For relevant content either the pet or the master will be hitting and doing decent damage. Both will not occur at the same time.

SE designed our gear to intentionally force us to choose, to limit our dmg output.

This Nerf changes everything. SE needs to completely revisit BST gear to redesign it around these changes.

[dasva]

Geos don't front line everything. Only things with no nasty AOE moves. For everything else, they use entrust and stay away. They also have the ability to use stone skin, blink and heal themselves and native magic defense bonus from subjob. Not only that, but when they idle in DT- gear, it doesn't gimp their spells.

Not even a close comparison. And it ignores the fact that if a BST can survive it, then a melee can survive it too, while putting out better damage.

Also ignores the fact that loupons have built in innate dt... and recasting them isn't based on a ja timer. And only need potency on cast instead of several seconds every 10 so can stay in full defense the vast majority of the time while stilling keeping even higher DTs on their sort of pet than bst can even achieve.

[Skyrant_Kangaroomouse]

Please adjust BST ability ranges.

I have no problem being close to the mob or engaging although it is pointless since my gear is not helping me at all in doing damage. Most BST gear is for pet stats not BST stats and does little for me. But the really big problem is the range limitation.

Has any of you at SE tried to hit any end game mob as BST engaged in melee with the available BST gear? If you can hit ANY of these evasive mobs in BST gear i will personally pay for pizza for all developers.

The biggest problem is that I can't even stand behind the mob any more. I just did Salvage II and Einherjar and it was a nightmare because even when engaged i have to be right next to my pet. I can't stand to the side or behind the boss mobs at all. I have to be right in the face of the mob. What are we now? TANKS?

Any bigger mob you will not be able to issue commands at all even when ENGAGED. On big Boss mobs, forget it completely. You can melee but you wont be able to issue commands unless you stand right next to your pet. Get knocked back or pet/boss adjusts which they do a lot then you need to keep adjusting too, finding the "Sweet spot". It has become a game of trial and error.

This is annoying and needs to be changed.

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While we are on the subject. You not only increase SMN range to an absurd number, you also give SMN it's OWN abjuration set, just for them. How about you now introduce a BST set that will actually work with these changes so we can do melee instead of giving us half arsed WAR pieces that do #$@ all.

[Olor]

Come on, can the bst haters even just admit the current ranges are ridiculous? Please?

[machini]

Come on, can the bst haters even just admit the current ranges are ridiculous? Please?

No, they're too busy trying to sweep the stupidly OP job that is BLU under the rug.

[Keido]

No, they're too busy trying to sweep the stupidly OP job that is BLU under the rug.

Difference is you cant play BLU and be terrible at it in any real content other than silt farming. You can be a mid level BST and affect hard content with 0 risk. Or you used to be Those that dont know how to play it very well die all the time. They can still cleave silt just as fast as Scissorleg Xerin spam can or SMN ramuh or BLMs or SCH.. Honestly adapt. Think of new strategies.

[Olor]

No one was doing hard content on BST without at minimum tens of millions in augmented gear. Please stop lying about BST. No one was beating hard content with poorly geared BST.

[bazookatooth]

You can be a mid level BST and affect hard content with 0 risk.

Cool story. Too bad it's not true.