[dev1289] Job Adjustments

[Bizniztyme]

Maybe. I fail to see how any other DD job is different though. Samurais and monks and wars stand in one spot and hit weapon skill macros. Bsts do the exact same thing only from a different spot. It's not like any of the jobs move around very much during a fight other than maybe SMN, bard or thf. I'm not sure why BST doing that should be some indication of skill or lack there of.

We are not talking about any other DD jobs. we are talking about BST. Also, it does take some kind of skill to time when you run in to use your JAs or whatever. To some it's going to be easy but I can guarantee to you it will be hard for others. Look at the QQ in this thread alone. One bad move and you could be dead, especially when you're soloing and that's what BST has always been known to do.

If we're all just pressing buttons (like every game every played in existence), Why are there good and bad players? We're all pressing buttons!!!!

[bazookatooth]

We are not talking about any other DD jobs. we are talking about BST. Also, it does take some kind of skill to time when you run in to use your JAs or whatever.

No it doesn't. You use them when the timer is up, or you lose the fight. Everything is on a timer these days. You don't use your weaponskills, the monster doesn't die. Either you use the abilities when they're ready, you die, or you time out.

And yes we are talking about other jobs. If we weren't, there would be no basis to judge BST by. The people who play BST weren't asking for a nerf. The people who Don't play it were. AKA "other jobs". Nobody was like "I don't know how BST works in comparison to other jobs, I just think they should be nerfed because they hang out with sheep!". Even if they were, that would be a dumb way to determine job balance.

If we're all just pressing buttons (like every game every played in existence), Why are there good and bad players? We're all pressing buttons!!!!

FFXI is all about the pregame. The actual physical button press sequences are simple enough as to not matter for the most part. It's not like you have to enter the konami code to do a weapon skill or cast a spell. It's just a button. Gear swaps, macros, strategies etc. are what make or break a battle and those don't happen in the heat of the moment. Those get set up prior to the fight. There is a minimal level of intelligence required to play the game. And that bar is pretty low. People who lack the mental capacity to hit the weapon skill macro when the little bar flashes shouldn't be factored into game balance. And people who do aren't skilled. Most of the skill is in the set up. Going in with the right tools for the job.

And this whole argument is just a poor excuse for being bad at things. If you had the right gear macroed and the right players in your party, you'd know that you aren't missing out on anything by not bringing BST. The strategies for using other jobs more efficiently are all over the net. If you have time to complain, you have time to read them. There's no excuse for being on here complaining about BST other than sucking at the game and / or just being plain spiteful.

TLDR; even if this did separate the good from the bad. How does that benefit anyone? More crappy Bards and WHMs? More crappy sams? Or do you just want them all to quit?

[Bizniztyme]

No it doesn't. You use them when the timer is up, or you lose the fight. Everything is on a timer these days. You don't use your weaponskills, the monster doesn't die. Either you use the abilities when they're ready, you die, or you time out.

And yes we are talking about other jobs. If we weren't, there would be no basis to judge BST by. The people who play BST weren't asking for a nerf. The people who Don't play it were. AKA "other jobs". Nobody was like "I don't know how BST works in comparison to other jobs, I just think they should be nerfed because they hang out with sheep!". Even if they were, that would be a dumb way to determine job balance.



FFXI is all about the pregame. The actual physical button press sequences are simple enough as to not matter for the most part. It's not like you have to enter the konami code to do a weapon skill or cast a spell. It's just a button. Gear swaps, macros, strategies etc. are what make or break a battle and those don't happen in the heat of the moment. Those get set up prior to the fight. There is a minimal level of intelligence required to play the game. And that bar is pretty low. People who lack the mental capacity to hit the weapon skill macro when the little bar flashes shouldn't be factored into game balance. And people who do aren't skilled. Most of the skill is in the set up. Going in with the right tools for the job.

And this whole argument is just a poor excuse for being bad at things. If you had the right gear macroed and the right players in your party, you'd know that you aren't missing out on anything by not bringing BST. The strategies for using other jobs more efficiently are all over the net. If you have time to complain, you have time to read them. There's no excuse for being on here complaining about BST other than sucking at the game and / or just being plain spiteful.

TLDR; even if this did separate the good from the bad. How does that benefit anyone? More crappy Bards and WHMs? More crappy sams? Or do you just want them all to quit?

Man, looks like you just want to argue for no damn reason. All I'm saying is it does require some kind of skill to play the game. The change requires more and if you don't see that it's pointless. I'll leave you to argue with yourself and listen to yourself talk because that seems like that's what you like to do. Good bye.

[bazookatooth]

Man, looks like you just want to argue for no damn reason. All I'm saying is it does require some kind of skill to play the game. The change requires more and if you don't see that it's pointless. I'll leave you to argue with yourself and listen to yourself talk because that seems like that's what you like to do. Good bye.

Because walking back and forth shows skill... Okay, see you later. Remember not to walk and chew gum until you're skilled enough.

OMG. Look at all the crazy skilled people walking back and forth... https://youtu.be/UVpR5NEWQj8