[dev1289] Job Adjustments

[Alhanelem]

It's not even efficiency. It's people who are too stupid to do anything but specific cookie-cutter tactics on fights. Like a couple months back where I was doing Avatar D fights with a party doing PLD RNG RNG WHM BRD COR. It was taking 20-25 minutes to clear the things. I convinced them to let me switch to DNC/RUN, and we started clearing in 5-10 minutes. Then the RNGs went THF and we were not only clearing faster, but getting much better loot out of it, too.

You start with "it's not even efficiency" but then you write a long description of how you got a party to vastly increase it's efficiency. Wat?

Personally I'm happy to use any combination of party members that can beat the fight. I care little for the amount of time taken per run (as long as we don't time out or almost time out). I feel like a lot of people have forgotten how to have fun.

[bazookatooth]

You start with "it's not even efficiency" but then you write a long description of how you got a party to vastly increase it's efficiency. Wat?

Personally I'm happy to use any combination of party members that can beat the fight. I care little for the amount of time taken per run (as long as we don't time out or almost time out). I feel like a lot of people have forgotten how to have fun.

They're saying that people are just picking X job over all others just because they saw / heard someone else win with it and they never try anything else. They just go with what everyone else does. Not because it's actually the most efficient, but because they saw / heard it worked and decided it must be the best if other people did it. The point of the story about making the party more efficient was to point out that people were trying to do everything with RNG because they don't think for themselves and just did what someone before them did, when they could have done it better using other jobs.

[machini]

They're saying that people are just picking X job over all others just because they saw / heard someone else win with it and they never try anything else. They just go with what everyone else does. Not because it's actually the most efficient, but because they saw / heard it worked and decided it must be the best if other people did it. The point of the story about making the party more efficient was to point out that people were trying to do everything with RNG because they don't think for themselves and just did what someone before them did, when they could have done it better using other jobs.

That's exactly what I was trying to say.

Also, I find it hilarious that no one seems to be talking about the item level Soboro that got added, which will probably be second to only the SAM mythic.