[dev1289] Job Adjustments

[machini]

Dale, people who live in glass houses should not throw stones. I prefer anonymity because having someone spend an entire week, hopping from one mule to another, to send you messages about exactly what kind of horrific things they want to do to you, along with strings of expletives, and have the GMs do absolutely nothing about it, is not enjoyable. Unfortunately, I can't get that because, foolish person I am, I decided to use my main's name for stuff.

You have made it obvious time and time again your hatred of BST is not based in facts. You apparently know nothing about BST gear, how BST works, or a host of related matters. And your intense desire to what to know who people are leaves me thinking that you want to know that simply so you can track them down and harass them via other means.

This thread has devolved from arguments about the relative merits of BST, and how it compares to other jobs, to a single person demanding personal information about others. A person who has repeatedly been rebuked and corrected, and that sort of behavior almost always means exactly one thing: "I cannot win this argument, so I want to harass you where I won't get banned for it."

[Malthar]

What I can't believe is that you guys still respond to Dale.

[Stompa]

I don't think Dale has said anything especially contentious, and I have often enjoyed reading his many posts about PLD, a job he clearly cares about deeply.

I think this argument is just a by-product and clear sign of the depth of feeling that people have about the BST nerf. People are not just complaining about the nerf, they are genuinely upset and hurt about how it has made their job less enjoyable.

BST isn't really gimped, but it is less fun to play and more of a headache to play usefully. People are very upset about this, and it is hard to remain calm when you are very upset. Hopefully SE will see that many BST players are genuinely hurt by this update, it has caused more harm than good, and they will rectify it. In the meantime I don't think that fighting with other FFXI Fans is going to achieve anything, except causing upset to everyone. We all have our opinions and perspectives, and we are all FFXI Fans first, specific jobs second.

[Jile]

I don't think Dale has said anything especially contentious, and I have often enjoyed reading his many posts about PLD, a job he clearly cares about deeply.

I think this argument is just a by-product and clear sign of the depth of feeling that people have about the BST nerf. People are not just complaining about the nerf, they are genuinely upset and hurt about how it has made their job less enjoyable.

BST isn't really gimped, but it is less fun to play and more of a headache to play usefully. People are very upset about this, and it is hard to remain calm when you are very upset. Hopefully SE will see that many BST players are genuinely hurt by this update, it has caused more harm than good, and they will rectify it. In the meantime I don't think that fighting with other FFXI Fans is going to achieve anything, except causing upset to everyone. We all have our opinions and perspectives, and we are all FFXI Fans first, specific jobs second.

Well stated Stompa.

I have been BST main for most of my XI life and SE ruining the functionality of BST has taken the fun out of playing the job. It doesn't function correctly and have had to shelve my main out of frustration.

I continue to hope SE will restore BST to how it was before the Nerf and lower the aoe-dmg of jugs instead. Like the sentiment previously noted by Olor, I was BST main before jugpets had powerful damage and it wont dissuade me from playing the job if it still didn't have powerful damage aoe jugs now. It's unfortunate that I can get decent magic burst damage from trusts while playing another job (not going to mention it in fear SE will ruin another job) and out damage what I was seeing on BST, but I digress. BST needs repaired.

As for the conflict in the thread, I wish people would just 'report' offensive posts rather than reply to them. Community rep's obviously read these threads but have left this one alone like the plague. I'm hoping Camate will reply on this thread and let BST's know things are going back how they were while they evaluate a better adjustment if one is needed. Given the far-better setups for the events that lead to the complaints on BST being done faster/better on other jobs with with far more damage and MB'ing making said events laughable (and yet still requires specific jobs or bust - removing BST from the shouts only changed what limited-jobs are shouted for, it didn't magically open up to all jobs being viable), it would be better to just leave BST as it was before the nerf and hope SE doesn't just nerf anything with high damage. Could you imagine if SE "adjusted" damage-cap for each single action to 10k dmg? ohnoes my MB doesn't do 99999 dmg anymore.... point made.

[machini]

Stompa, I'd like to point out that I don't even play BST and I don't like the nerf.

[Malthar]

I don't even log in anymore and am playing another game. That's how much it upset me by SE taking the fUn factor out of my main.

[Olor]

I don't even log in anymore and am playing another game. That's how much it upset me by SE taking the fUn factor out of my main.

This. I did log in to get a new player started last night but... it really makes me sad to play now.

[Faithful]

I deactivated my account. If this mess gets resolved I'll come back but otherwise I'm just gonna move on, and It wont be to ff14.

[Olor]

I deactivated my account. If this mess gets resolved I'll come back but otherwise I'm just gonna move on, and It wont be to ff14.

I understand this. If it doesn't change soon I will be in the same boat. I'm basically only staying subbed at this point to get the last of the new trusts before the end of content.

[Stompa]

My happiest memories of FFXI were the times when I helped players farm coffer keys, artifact, or I helped them take down a strong monster that dropped the item they really wanted. When I heard those players being so happy afterwards, and showing off their artifact etc. it made my heart fill with joy, and fly around like a drunk pigeon.

That is why this BST situation is really making my heart heavy. I can see these players are not just fronting or complaining for the sake of it, these players are really unhappy. Its like the opposite of what I spent 90% of my FFXI play-time trying to achieve, which was Happy Players. It really saddens me to see players being so unhappy, and I hope SE will consider nerfing BST in a different way, like slight lowering of damage or something. Nobody wants to see BST players being this unhappy, or feeling unable to give pet treats to their beloved animals.