[dev1289] Job Adjustments

[Jile]

SE could have placed the same limitation we have with trusts onto BST jugs, where we would have to be engaged and have pets disengage when we do, that would have tethered us to the pet and left us able to function. Right now the ja's functionality range is inconsistent and frustratingly overly tight.

I'd really rather my pets taken a dmg output Nerf than this mortal wound to functionality.

[Elexia]

SE could have placed the same limitation we have with trusts onto BST jugs, where we would have to be engaged and have pets disengage when we do, that would have tethered us to the pet and left us able to function. Right now the ja's functionality range is inconsistent and frustratingly overly tight.

I'd really rather my pets taken a dmg output Nerf than this mortal wound to functionality.

From a programming stand point that wouldn't have worked. The AI algorithms for player pets are more directly related to your control, that's why the other NPC partner you get is more likely to hold onto TP in order to try to skillchain with you and so on. It's like how SMN's pets will protect you if you aggro or get attacked but a BST's pet won't charmed or otherwise because lore wise, they're still wild beasts, but from a gameplay perspective, they're not there to "protect" you. Trusts can only function when it's "told" you're engaged due to limitations in the system otherwise they'd go college party wild on everything within range.

[Jile]

I understand what your saying Elexia; however, it wouldn't be hard for them to tie when we disengage it's the same as using heel, causing our pets to disengage too.

Ultimately any adjustments instead of this Nerf would be potentially better than the 2-yalm leash we have now.

[Olor]

Perhaps.

My point is Beast Master was over-powered and it needed to be changed in some way.

No, it was not. It was not. Seriously. Please show me the math where a BST was out damaging other DD jobs. They aren't. They weren't. Everything BST was doing could be done by other jobs. Just differently. Being able to do something differently that other jobs can still complete is not OP. SERIOUSLY. Being occasionally invited to a few endgame events for the first time in 13 years is NOT OP.

[Daniel_Hatcher]

No, it was not. It was not. Seriously. Please show me the math where a BST was out damaging other DD jobs. They aren't. They weren't. Everything BST was doing could be done by other jobs. Just differently. Being able to do something differently that other jobs can still complete is not OP. SERIOUSLY. Being occasionally invited to a few endgame events for the first time in 13 years is NOT OP.

Being able to do so in a way you guarantee success with absolutely no risk is OP. Don't get me wrong though, this was NOT the way to go about fixing that.

[Olor]

Being able to do so in a way you guarantee success with absolutely no risk is OP.

Good thing that never happened. Seriously - people need to stop lying about BST.

[detlef]

Uh, are you sure that never happened? In my experience, it happened.

[Olor]

Uh, are you sure that never happened? In my experience, it happened.

Really? Please do show me an event where a BST never ever failed, not once.

[Daniel_Hatcher]

Really? Please do show me an event where a BST never ever failed, not once.

Any event can be failed no matter how OP a job is if the player is bad, If that is the basis of argument it's a silly one.

BST's could send in one or more pets who can kill the enemy while you yourself have little to no no chance of dying, that is a flawed system and I imagine were it a job you don't play as you'd see that too.

[kylani]

I don't know about you guys, but ever since the nerf I've lost a lot of interest in FFXI and started playing Elite: Dangerous more. I spend, maybe, an hour in FFXI now and the rest in Elite: Dangerous. It's become a more fun game now. How wrong is that?!

I've never heard of Eliteangerous, but it has to be better than the housework and laundry that I've been doing. I'm gonna check it out, lol.