[dev1289] Job Adjustments

[Singforu]

No it's not. You people want to just stand on the sidelines with your pet doing all the work. Wake up, SE doesn't want you to play that way. SE wants you to stand right next to your pet and fight along side it. You only consider it broken because you don't want to play it the way SE intends for you to play it. Get over it.

A BLM could not play the job the way SE intends for it to be played and melee without casting a single nuke. Is his DPS going to take a hit... you betcha. Play BST the way SE intends for you to play it and stop whining.

[Arthos]

Bst simply got eliminated of high lv content. There's no new playstyle. When you want to go with a melee pt, there are better options, faster and safer then bst. It still can be good on low level content, but it's more a hobby now than an endgame job.
For now it has the advantage that many players have good equip and jp on bst, so that it still may be an option to go with a bst group. But this will fade out with the time and you will see pure melee pt, but more often other ranged setups. Bst cannot join any of them, because even if they add gear for bst melee, you would still need different buffs for master and pet.

[Zeargi]

No it's not. You people want to just stand on the sidelines with your pet doing all the work. Wake up, SE doesn't want you to play that way. SE wants you to stand right next to your pet and fight along side it. You only consider it broken because you don't want to play it the way SE intends for you to play it. Get over it.

A BLM could not play the job the way SE intends for it to be played and melee without casting a single nuke. Is his DPS going to take a hit... you betcha. Play BST the way SE intends for you to play it and stop whining.

While I do tend to fight next to my pet, I recently went into Dynamis and almost died, because my pet went wondering off to hit some Range fighter and moved way outside of 'Ready's range. Mind you my internet connection right now isn't all that great, but there is most definitely a problem.

As many have said, they need to adjust the gear for BST to help both player and pet, and the range for the abilities needs to be adjusted. It's really bad when I'm in close proximity and I still can't issue a command.

[bazookatooth]

No it's not. You people want to just stand on the sidelines with your pet doing all the work. Wake up, SE doesn't want you to play that way. SE wants you to stand right next to your pet and fight along side it. You only consider it broken because you don't want to play it the way SE intends for you to play it. Get over it.

A BLM could not play the job the way SE intends for it to be played and melee without casting a single nuke. Is his DPS going to take a hit... you betcha. Play BST the way SE intends for you to play it and stop whining.

Imagine how blms would feel if that were to suddenly happen. I think BLMs would be rather pissed if SE suddenly decided that magic bursts have gotten too powerful, so they are now required to stand up on the frontline and fight in order to cast spells. And rightfully so. Just because SE says it is their new intention, doesn't mean it isn't dumb and it doesn't mean we shouldn't tell them. We've never had to play bst that way before and we don't like it. Luckily there's a forum where we can express this discontent to the developer so that they can take a more appropriate course of action. If you don't like it, you are free to go read something else. This obviously doesn't pertain to you. But I for one will not "Stop Whining". I don't bow down to trolls.

[Elexia]

Imagine how blms would feel if that were to suddenly happen..

That would be quite silly for it to happen to a job that is 99.9% of the time as far away from the monster as possible.

Imagine if it were to happen to WHM! May as well throw another unrealistic situation.

[bazookatooth]

That would be quite silly for it to happen to a job that is 99.9% of the time as far away from the monster as possible.

Imagine if it were to happen to WHM! May as well throw another unrealistic situation.

Ermm... now you're getting it. They took a job that always played from a distance and made it fight on the front line. I'm glad that you can see how ridiculous it is.

[Gwydion]

My biggest problem with using the terminology "front-line job" and calling BST a "front-line job" is that ....other "front-line jobs" won't be happy to receive the same buffs as Beastmasters.

We need Beastmaster Roll / Drachen Roll / Pup Roll ...I don't think other front-line DD like WAR/SAM/DRK/etc. would be comfortable giving their buffs up so that my pet can be buffed. Let's also not forget that the WHM we're expected to bring can't heal our pets.

The whole thing just doesn't make any sense and it's very clear that the folks who opted for this fix haven't played Beastmaster from 1-75, solo or in high-level content.

Beastmaster should either be given the full benefits of a front-line job (and then some, like an Ochain-like shield with sic/ready-10) ...or reverted to what it was a month ago.

The situation is just so incredibly disappointing and it is making it very hard for me to login.

[Jile]

No it's not. You people want to just stand on the sidelines with your pet doing all the work. Wake up, SE doesn't want you to play that way. SE wants you to stand right next to your pet and fight along side it. You only consider it broken because you don't want to play it the way SE intends for you to play it. Get over it.

A BLM could not play the job the way SE intends for it to be played and melee without casting a single nuke. Is his DPS going to take a hit... you betcha. Play BST the way SE intends for you to play it and stop whining.

Do me a favor, please - stop posting a while and have the respect to try and see why we're having issues and go play BST now. Do something simple like Demolition Squad BCNM and try to use spur and ready moves from behind the BST nm so you don't get charmed.

Spur needed the BST to stand IN FRONT of the BST-NM we were using BST to avoid being charmed by.... That is idiotic, you cant even stand in BACK of the mob your fighting to use SPUR and READY moves?

Please, respectfully, stop posting when you have no idea why the job is broken now. We can adapt to a lot, when things are not broken like they are presently. If this were just an issue if needing to be engaged, it would at least leave BST usable for a limited range of things. Right now its just idiotic and useless. SE needs to repair the damage and offer an apology after they restore us to being a playable job.

[bazookatooth]

Do me a favor, please - stop posting a while and have the respect to try and see why we're having issues and go play BST now. Do something simple like Demolition Squad BCNM and try to use spur and ready moves from behind the BST nm so you don't get charmed.

Spur needed the BST to stand IN FRONT of the BST-NM we were using BST to avoid being charmed by.... That is idiotic, you cant even stand in BACK of the mob your fighting to use SPUR and READY moves?

Please, respectfully, stop posting when you have no idea why the job is broken now. We can adapt to a lot, when things are not broken like they are presently. If this were just an issue if needing to be engaged, it would at least leave BST usable for a limited range of things. Right now its just idiotic and useless. SE needs to repair the damage and offer an apology after they restore us to being a playable job.

You think that's bad, try BST in domain invasion. One of the dragons or Lamia does an AOE attack/spell and your pet runs off after it. So you have to spam "fight" every 10 seconds (animation delay yay!) and hope it doesn't die before it comes back to you, or get hit with another AOE and run away again because you can't cure it or tell it to kill whatever it's after unless you're sitting on it's back. It's completely broken.

[Gwydion]

You think that's bad, try BST in domain invasion. One of the dragons or Lamia does an AOE attack/spell and your pet runs off after it. So you have to spam "fight" every 10 seconds (animation delay yay!) and hope it doesn't die before it comes back to you, or get hit with another AOE and run away again because you can't cure it or tell it to kill whatever it's after unless you're sitting on it's back. It's completely broken.

This...so much this.