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    Player Alhanelem's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by BurnNotice View Post
    Due to a very low supply of these items, along with the lack of interested people have in participating in doing voidwatch, very low drop rate, I find it extremely hard and unreasonable to complete empyrean weapons, unlike mythic and relic weapons where you can farm your materials and complete the weapons in a reasonable amount of time.

    I would like to know what will be done about this? Has there been conversation to at least expand the availability of these items into other events and into Abyssea?

    Thank you.
    If you play through Rhapsodies, there are some nerfs to voidwatch in there, including the VNM nerfing items being much cheaper. It should be eaiser to farm this now. All they really need now is to make sure trust can be used (I don't know if they can now or not?)

    You don't need to bring a bunch of extra people just for the sake of procs anymore, after you get through rhaposdies you can change the mob's weaknesses basically any time you want (if you discover that you can't proc it)
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    Player Stompa's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alhanelem View Post
    If you play through Rhapsodies, there are some nerfs to voidwatch in there, including the VNM nerfing items being much cheaper. It should be eaiser to farm this now. All they really need now is to make sure trust can be used (I don't know if they can now or not?)

    You don't need to bring a bunch of extra people just for the sake of procs anymore, after you get through rhaposdies you can change the mob's weaknesses basically any time you want (if you discover that you can't proc it)

    Its not really about displacers, or even about easier procs. It is about the random lucky loot factor, and how that luck factor should play a very small role in the farming of legendary weapon mats.

    My Empy LS which I spammed Qilin with for years, we will do 12-pop runs, alliance, 100% maxed lights every time. The guy standing next to me might randomly get four bags of HMP and go home with 50~ plates. I have had countless 12-pop maxed lights runs where I got zero plates. On occasion I have been 0 hmp on 50x Qilin maxed lights.

    The point is that if you farmed currencies for your Relic / Mythic / Ergon, and you went home after a 3-hour farming session, with zero currency, you'd be upset. And yet for some reason this actually happens with Empys, and can just snowball with zero drops for weeks on end.

    HMP/cinders reminds me of Alluvion Skirmish augments. Its totally luck based, in both cases.

    I'm not complaining, because the VW group I belong to are my Japanese friends, they are always great fun to party with, and also I think its cool to pop big NMs and proc them. So VW is fun for me at least, my problem is the "Zero Progress" factor. If you do a three hour VW run, and your Empy is at 1010 / 1500 HMP before the run, and then after three hours run is finished, your Empy is still at 1010 / 1500 HMP, that is zero progress on your weapon. At least with Relic / Mythic / Ergon you will always make some progress every time you go farm your currency for three hours.

    So maybe VW should have a basic rate, for example if the lights are capped then everybody gets 5 HMP each, with additional possible chance of a lucky bag too. The problem is that now you can literally just get logs and rocks lol, and your weapon progress can be at a standstill, for weeks at a time, based on luck.
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    Last edited by Stompa; 08-23-2015 at 04:44 AM. Reason: Brevity.

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    Player BurnNotice's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alhanelem View Post
    If you play through Rhapsodies, there are some nerfs to voidwatch in there, including the VNM nerfing items being much cheaper. It should be eaiser to farm this now. All they really need now is to make sure trust can be used (I don't know if they can now or not?)

    You don't need to bring a bunch of extra people just for the sake of procs anymore, after you get through rhaposdies you can change the mob's weaknesses basically any time you want (if you discover that you can't proc it)
    Even with rhaposdies KIs, the the drops from VW still remain the same. I still count how many times it takes me to kill Morta just to get one riftcinder/riftdross...and not just myself, but with a few other folks. To kill Morta between 10 to 20 (my record was actually 27 kills before seeing one) times for one riftcinder/riftdross is very stressful.
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