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    Player Stompa's Avatar
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    There is a huge gulf between the solo/lowman ease of building of Relic/Mythic, and Empys. Empy is hamstrung by being shackled to the VW alliance proc / random loot system, which doesn't apply to the other two legendary weapon classes. The fact you can do fifty VW with full lights, and if you are really unlucky you can get zero empy mats, just loads of flowers and fishes, is a huge fail. It wouldn't happen that way if you were building relic or mythic, you will always get something when you farmed mats for those.
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    Player BurnNotice's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stompa View Post
    There is a huge gulf between the solo/lowman ease of building of Relic/Mythic, and Empys. Empy is hamstrung by being shackled to the VW alliance proc / random loot system, which doesn't apply to the other two legendary weapon classes. The fact you can do fifty VW with full lights, and if you are really unlucky you can get zero empy mats, just loads of flowers and fishes, is a huge fail. It wouldn't happen that way if you were building relic or mythic, you will always get something when you farmed mats for those.
    Totally agree with you Stompa. This is also why I strongly suggest the Dev Team to look into other ways for us to obtain these items.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stompa View Post
    There is a huge gulf between the solo/lowman ease of building of Relic/Mythic, and Empys. Empy is hamstrung by being shackled to the VW alliance proc / random loot system, which doesn't apply to the other two legendary weapon classes. The fact you can do fifty VW with full lights, and if you are really unlucky you can get zero empy mats, just loads of flowers and fishes, is a huge fail. It wouldn't happen that way if you were building relic or mythic, you will always get something when you farmed mats for those.
    I like voidwatch a lot and I agree with this. It has long since ceased to be a good method to distribute these items (as is). If voidwatch was changed to be more like abyssea so it was sensible to do it with a party of six or less it might be viable, especially if drops are increased a little bit. But the current system is very unreasonable for the players we have.

    Quote Originally Posted by Alhanelem View Post
    If you play through Rhapsodies, there are some nerfs to voidwatch in there, including the VNM nerfing items being much cheaper. It should be eaiser to farm this now. All they really need now is to make sure trust can be used (I don't know if they can now or not?)

    You don't need to bring a bunch of extra people just for the sake of procs anymore, after you get through rhaposdies you can change the mob's weaknesses basically any time you want (if you discover that you can't proc it)
    This is a ludicrous comment. Even with conscious people trying to proc it can be difficult to get procs. Fuming every 5 seconds doesn't help much - and cells really only help defeat the monster not proc it. They should reduce procs (one of each kind of spell - ie one blue spell of each element, one elemental spell of each element, one song of each element, one of each kind of divine spell, one of each kind of enfeeble etc) so that it is less stupid to try to proc it.

    It's still possible to finish empys (I know a couple of people who led voidwatch till it happened) but for the average person it is just another huge hurdle to finishing a difficult weapon.
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