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    Community Rep Grekumah's Avatar
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    Voidwatch drops are placed into individual loot pools, and drops increase greatly with more participants.

    Increasing the drop rates at this time will upset the balance between supply and demand, and it is possible this will result in balance issues.

    As far as all Relic/Mythic/Empyrean/Ergon weapons go, we’ve reduced the hurdles for participation, but we have not increased the amount of progress gained per encounter. This is dependent on the policy related to these weapons.

    On a side note, we have increased the chances of obtaining these items through key items and campaigns.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grekumah View Post
    Voidwatch drops are placed into individual loot pools, and drops increase greatly with more participants.

    The main issue you don't seem to be taking into consideration is the fact, not everyone will devote their time to doing voidwatch, lack of server population + the randomness of trust makes it a very tough challenge more than it was originally. People would be more interested in VW probably if they had more people that are doing more things rather than being afk. Japanese prime time you see 1.2k+ on bahamut active. When it gets to EU/NA times, 400-600 and thats on one of the most populated servers. I've heard a lot less on others. My point is the current population per server does not help the magnitued of what needs to be done through a team effort =/
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grekumah View Post
    will upset the balance between supply and demand
    HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!! You say that like there is a balance between supply and demand with the system is in it's current state.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grekumah View Post
    Voidwatch drops are placed into individual loot pools, and drops increase greatly with more participants.

    Increasing the drop rates at this time will upset the balance between supply and demand, and it is possible this will result in balance issues.

    As far as all Relic/Mythic/Empyrean/Ergon weapons go, we’ve reduced the hurdles for participation, but we have not increased the amount of progress gained per encounter. This is dependent on the policy related to these weapons.

    On a side note, we have increased the chances of obtaining these items through key items and campaigns.


    Off topic but can you let Akihiko Matsui know that we need campaigns back again like double capacity and others. Right now people aren't as active anymore because double trust campaigns is gone. People no longer wants to team up and EXP when campaign is gone. I just realize how difficult it was to clear avatar fight without it and it was a tough solo. I hope miso ramen food cap are raise and it be great if this food actually affect pet like BST and PUP.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grekumah View Post

    Increasing the drop rates at this time will upset the balance between supply and demand, and it is possible this will result in balance issues.
    Let's face it too, you've already pointed out that dd won't be getting any acc bonus to help in new battle content, so i just can't understand balance issues, when most mages can already magic burst for 99999, i mean the dd's on big mobs are lucky to hit 3-5k. Mages aren't going to get that much of a new bonus to their already super duper powers. But also you say about supply balance. This is all good, again if the servers were more populated, on some servers, 3 riftdross, or 10 hmp, its just too far fetched for the requirements. Most likely 1% of the server will even attempt an emp from scratch, because its just too time consuming, for a game that's nearing the end of its life storyline wise. Make the game suited for the declining population, not suited to when players are most active (being japanese times) we can't all be on at the same time. 3-400 people half of which are probably afk in jeuno, are not going to upset the balance of avaiability. What is upsetting the balance, is lack of supply
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grekumah View Post
    Voidwatch drops are placed into individual loot pools, and drops increase greatly with more participants.

    Increasing the drop rates at this time will upset the balance between supply and demand, and it is possible this will result in balance issues.

    As far as all Relic/Mythic/Empyrean/Ergon weapons go, we’ve reduced the hurdles for participation, but we have not increased the amount of progress gained per encounter. This is dependent on the policy related to these weapons.

    On a side note, we have increased the chances of obtaining these items through key items and campaigns.
    Supply and demand? I've noticed there is practically no supply coming from the playerbase. If anything, I believe the increase in drops would help the limited playerbase at this time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mithlas View Post
    Supply and demand? I've noticed there is practically no supply coming from the playerbase. If anything, I believe the increase in drops would help the limited playerbase at this time.
    What about the other side of that equation? What is the demand for these drops considering how weak the weapons are?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grekumah View Post
    On a side note, we have increased the chances of obtaining these items through key items and campaigns.
    I'm sorry but that does not change a thing. We probably all have the key items by now and we all cap lights during Voidwatches, in fact what we all complain about takes into account fights with key items and capped lights.
    The only difference now is that people will probably wait to use their voidstones during campaigns only to avoid bothering with the proc system, especially when solo/low man.
    This doesn't increase supply in any way, people who wanted to work on empy already did before Voidwatch campaign, the same goes for people who wanted to sell their HMPs. And we can't really say that Voidwatch has an interesting gil/hr ratio if you're only looking to sell plates.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grekumah View Post
    Voidwatch drops are placed into individual loot pools, and drops increase greatly with more participants.

    Increasing the drop rates at this time will upset the balance between supply and demand, and it is possible this will result in balance issues.

    As far as all Relic/Mythic/Empyrean/Ergon weapons go, we’ve reduced the hurdles for participation, but we have not increased the amount of progress gained per encounter. This is dependent on the policy related to these weapons.

    On a side note, we have increased the chances of obtaining these items through key items and campaigns.
    That's the problem. There isn't a supply available, demand is high, and there is an extreme balance issue with this. There is currently no incentive to get people more involved with VWs. Even if an alliance of 18 happen to get together, its been historically shown that the drop rates was unsatisfactory to the point that people have given up doing VWs and purchasing other folks items if they were readily available. Even today, you have folks who have been working on their empy for the past 2 years or more. THIS SHOULD NOT BE HAPPENING. It's unacceptable and unnecessary time sink into that project. Some may say "Hey, well if you can't be patient and work on it, do something else", but that's not a solution and as a paying subscriber who is also investing time in a project like acquiring an empy, its should be obtain in a reasonable time frame. Especially if the goal for players is to make multiple weapons across their favorite jobs. Build an empy, like a relic and mythic, should be a rewarding experience, not something to be discouraged and out of reach for players due to availability and the low drop rate.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grekumah View Post
    Voidwatch drops are placed into individual loot pools, and drops increase greatly with more participants.

    Increasing the drop rates at this time will upset the balance between supply and demand, and it is possible this will result in balance issues.

    As far as all Relic/Mythic/Empyrean/Ergon weapons go, we’ve reduced the hurdles for participation, but we have not increased the amount of progress gained per encounter. This is dependent on the policy related to these weapons.

    On a side note, we have increased the chances of obtaining these items through key items and campaigns.
    Also, if we have to compromise and agree on something, it should be on the HMPs at least. The availability and access to them has to change.
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