Quote Originally Posted by dasva View Post
I'd rather use a DD for that... now Ouryu heck yeah the conal moves work he is up. That said it's if you are shouting for specific jobs outside of maybe whm on any Normal high tier battle I'm going to laugh at you. That's more of a sign of people not realizing that is completely soloable and a joke with basically any setup.

It is interesting that current content Asura is bst or broke while Shiva is more or less mage or gtfo though smn was used for awhile. Wonder if it's just prevailing attitudes or if it might have something to do with how well those jobs or generally... or perhaps how good the pertinent support is. Physical dmg in general tends to fall apart without a good amount of -def/evasion on hard content and I have noticed not a lot of great geos over here and while I'm sure some exist I haven't personally seen an Idris so maybe that might have something to do with it? I know a lot of people were complaining about the evasion/meva of SR mobs when it came out so that kind of made smn popular since it has a move that bypasses those checks albeit for meh dmg
I totally agree with what you are saying about the HTBF setups. Almost any of them can be low manned. I think the current content of Asura is a little bit of both of what you were saying. It is prevailing attitudes mixed with how well the jobs perform. Like I mentioned in other posts me and Sogoro (another poster) were sitting on Asura last night watching shouts while talking in tell, and Sogoro actually talked to someone who was shouting for bst for Escha who wanted capped JP bst only. The guy had the attitude that he wants guaranteed wins for the NM and that is why he was taking cap JP only jobs. You and I both know that cap might help a lot but it is not necessary to get kills. That is just what the person probably saw other groups do and saw the difference it made and and preferred his groups to be that way too.

My experience with people on Asura is that if they are in a group that kills something a certain way and they like that way they are not up for changing setups if they know it kills fast and works. I have been on Asura for several years, and once groups find out strats that work for them (my group is guilty of this somewhat as well) we tend to stick to that setup. The mind set is kill fast so they can spam and get more kills in and more chances of drops/gear. The support also is a thing as well. DD setups need way more support then groups with bst, and finding good support people has been getting harder and harder cause not many want to play those rolls anymore. I see this all the time if I have a member quit and I try to find someone to replace them on a support roll level.