Nerf Beastmaster

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Haha it's called direct magic damage reduction. No amount of lower magic evasion is going to increase the damage to respectable levels, ever nuke water on something resistant to it like leech?

You said resistance not mdt or sdt. Comparing physical evasion to sdt/mdt is horribly disingenuous. A better comparison would be to physical sdts and pdts. Guess what no matter how much you lower def or evasion your tiger is going to do horrible dmg to that same leech as well while the blm if they are paying attention is going to switch elements... and if they were knowledgeable wouldn't have used the water in the first place

How are the T3 escha NMs and caturae fights where jugs don't do well? I've seen BST do all of them np, maybe its just your skill? Brimboil has been done, even by the guy you even mentioned with a testimonial on it. He used a grasshopper buffed with all his JA to straight up melee it down. Perfidien can be done the same way it would just take a while, which isn't too bad considering hes quick to pop with the KI. AA TT petrify doesn't last that long, you can stand on the stairs and spam heals. Beist? lol you can melee him down on the BST with trusts/trust tank. Sensual Sandy? Why... Not gonna keep going into them all but each case isn't something a BST can't overcome with support, pretty much all of those things you listed you can spam heal through np.

There are a lot of NMs in the game that are resistant to magic where it takes a direct reduction in damage, they added even more in this last update. The thing is, you can still win but its clearly inferior to physical DD and BST pets. This really isn't true for BST, you can probably bet almost anything added with a few exceptions will be able to be done with them being optimal. My only point was that you are posting a SS of two BLM's doing Death as if it was proof they needed to be nerfed when it clearly is isolated and not true across every NM that is relevant. You aren't doing 99,999+ Death dmg to every NM in the game, yet you are using that SS and previously one of Plouton as your proof other jobs are better and need to be nerfed over BST. Your posts come across very condescending and trollish. You realize the jobs potential but don't want it adjusted so you try to talk down to anyone with a negative opinion of BST as if they are mentally challenged and don't see the obvious.

Doing them isn't the same as doing them well. Way to move the goal posts. A lot of those are either problems with how much dmg you can do... yeah you can get them done but it takes forever either due to evasion or dmg reductions or debilitating debuffs that can't be removed (btw that last one was the reason for perfiden). And some of them even with perfect DT gear and perfect reward sets you are riding reward timers and sometimes fall short. Dots in particularly are hard to deal with since dt doesn't work and no naws.

Really I'm not sure what point you are making here you acknowledge that in several fights bst can still power thru things with proper support and gear and spamming heal and waiting things out and that's bad but then right away say that blms can also power thru things they aren't as good at.... me being trollish? You are the one that consistently applies double standards such as that one. If you can't see it maybe there is something wrong with you... I mean seriously you back to back say one thing is ok for other jobs but bad for bst. And no I'm not trying to say other jobs need to be nerfed. Other than that bit of obvious satire I was doing I've definitely stated that the point of dmg comparisons was to show there is no need for nerfs because plenty of others can do as much

Deal "good" damage and be the most optimal choice are completely different things. People are shouting for BST for all content for a reason. "Everyone realizes this" but me? Damn dude, you really are trying to attack me. I seem to have struck a nerve.

I agree. Good thing bsts aren't the most optimal most the time. Shouting is rather poor logic. I mean most the shouts I see are for sch blm and geo pld and whm. That's not an attack quit the pity party. It's simple statement of fact that was admittedly exaggerated. The vast majority of the players I find are quite aware other jobs can deal tons of dmg. And a nerve ha funny

I'm really starting to see what people said about you to be true now lol. Blatant mistruths? Show me them. Lack of logical coherence in my arguments, examples? Seems like another personal attack. I haven't personally attacked any real poster in this thread except maybe the fake mule account that troll is hiding behind.Each post has typically 4 +s, not hard to guess as 3 of them are arguing for BST in this very thread and its not exactly a very active forum lol.

And here is more of what I mean. You cry that everyone is attacking you for disagreeing with you and then your response is a blatant attempt at character assassination. I mean I could make similar statements myself....but I'm trying to keep this a discussion about ideas and not people. And then you have the nerve to call statements about what you say as personal attacks. Is this opposite world? Do you honestly believe that attacking someone's point is personal but attacking the person themselves isn't? Because I got news for you that's not how it works.

Blatant mistruths? How about how you've previously said 10k dmg every 10 seconds is something no other DD can do? How about your earlier statements about how hardly any nms have debuffs that matter to bst... I just listed a few and what do you do? Brush it off with like oh well just wait it out or spam heal or get a tank. Well gee because other jobs can't do the same AND have those statuses cured. You say things like you don't make personal attacks except on "trolls" on "fake accounts" a few sentences after a personal attack. Or like how you claim that saying the things that you are saying are wrong or illogical is a [/I]personal[/I] attacks. If I wanted to make that a personal attack I would've said something about your motivation to do so or the say something about the character of person that would say those things. Ya know what you've done. As far as lack of logical coherence ok how about when you make a huge deal about how unfair it is that a melee can be paralyzed for a few seconds until it gets cured because it lowers dps. But when presented with situations where bsts dps gets lowered by even greater amounts and can't be cured you act like there is no problem. With make talk about how magic dmg can be reduced then blatantly pretend like physical can't be. Or like how you try to compare actual direct dmg reductions to mere evasion.

I will give you this though it seems like you do get where the pluses likely come from now. It's obviously people who agree in a thread without a lot of traffic... and yeah in a bst forums so likely to have more innate support though obviously not universal. But on the other hand if this was really such a big problem don't you think it would see more traffic from non bsts? Instead it's mostly a few people who play the job that would be here regardless of the state of the job. I mean when thf finally got it's 15 minutes Rudra's was hotly debated by both sides in much larger amounts on all the forums. Whether you think it was good or bad it was definitely a big deal. This though? Relatively minor attention.

P.S. Didn't see it earlier but yes there is an ignore function. Click on the persons name to go to their profile should be easy to find from there