Nerf Beastmaster

[Jile]

LOL!

I'm sorry you have a hard time understanding why actual BST players are upset, I really am. I know from an outsider's perspective you see JA's going off but you do not understand how many times we have to re-position and continually hope they will fire and don't.

But this is a tired subject of trying to explain the broken nature of current BST to people that do not play the job and can not comprehend. Please, go play the job on relevant content and then come back and post, anything short of that is trolling.

SE community rep - the Dev team needs to reevaluate the horrible lack of consistent functionality of BST JA's post nerf. Please assist!

[Ulth]

Seems to me actual BST players don't care and just run in and out a lot. Or are they not true Scotsmen?

[Jile]

Honestly Ulth, its frustrating.

When you run in, you cant just run up beside your pet and hit the macro once and have it work every time, even minding the valid comment about lag location you mentioned before, you can hit the macro several times and nothing happens... other times it fires and everything works fine.

It's inconsistent to a point of frustration which is where I think most of us who were/are full time BST get upset and the hair starts standing up on our necks.

If it was consistent and we knew we could just stand in front of our pet and the monster and it would 'always' fire within 1 second of getting into position, it wouldn't be nearly as bad. But there are times when we're having to run around, literally, in circles around the pet trying to find a good spot when the JA's will fire.

If I'm not going to engage on a fight, which isn't that often, I've taken to the tactic of running an ellipse around my pet hitting the macro a min of three times as I run around and there are times it fire's once I'm beside my pet and others as I'm on the other side of my pet preparing to depart on the ellipse.

Additionally, if our pet gets touched by anything it stops attacking the mob we sent it against and runs across the screen after whatever hit it.. nearly as quickly as our pet does this we cant reward or use any other JA and have to chase down our pets in an emergency, especially if it happens right after we sent our pet on a mob, it's beyond frustrating.

SE needs to fix this by removing the line-of-sight garbage with our pets... if we're within 10 yalms of the radius of our pet, our JA's should function... if they did that then granted if we're fighting a behemoth or something larger we still would be out of range behind the mob but we could come within 10 yalms of our pet and function again. This wouldn't fix the issues of eating conial damage or charm but at least having our JA's function again would be in the right direction.

SE did not need to change our playstyle but since they have, they really need to make it function more effectively.

[dasva]

Guys you should really stop feeding the troll. He's always just going to say what is happening isn't for the sake of attention.

Plus I think the issue has kind of been beat to death. In the end most of the last several pages come down to those that play with the job at least semi frequently saying how hard it is to get the pet moves to work because they often have to hit macros several times and hope for the best. Others see people still killing stuff and assume everything is working perfectly fine 100% of the time

[Ulth]

Guys you should really stop feeding the troll. He's always just going to say what is happening isn't for the sake of attention.

Plus I think the issue has kind of been beat to death. In the end most of the last several pages come down to those that play with the job at least semi frequently saying how hard it is to get the pet moves to work because they often have to hit macros several times and hope for the best. Others see people still killing stuff and assume everything is working perfectly fine 100% of the time

Funny how the meaning of troll has somehow just devolved to someone who disagrees with you. Anyway YES the issue has been beat to death. It happened in September and for months I just sat idly waiting for all you bsts who threaten to unsubscribe to do it and stop whining on the OF. I thought it would be over for sure when a certain poster of the fecal variety was banned for several belligerent threads about it, but no. But yeah, stop the whining. You are all annoying. Things aren't as easy as they were before the nerf? You don't say.

[Vae]

He does kinda have a point. No matter how much you complain, not a damn thing is going to change, and you know it.

Time to bluwagon or pupitup.

[Jile]

He does kinda have a point. No matter how much you complain, not a damn thing is going to change, and you know it.

Time to bluwagon or pupitup.

Already did transition to PUP but regardless I keep a spark of hope that SE will restore BST... we'll see what happens someday heh.

[dasva]

He does kinda have a point. No matter how much you complain, not a damn thing is going to change, and you know it.

Time to bluwagon or pupitup.

Idk it was all this complaining that got it to happen in the first place... and I mean now it really is broken. That said I was already transitioning to pup way before this was even announced for well anything not requiring AoEs just because autos are so set and forget it's amazing for multi boxing

Might resurrect my blu. Was certainly one of my faves but SOA made it so much harder to keep up while also trying to do any other job. Jk rng full speed ahead. Just finished the alex portion of my Gastraphetes. Trueflight all the things

[zeroryoko]

Nerf BLU, Nerf SAM, Nerf BLM they are all to powerful. BST has been maligned and ignored by Squeenix for so long, and suddenly it is good again, and everyone cries that it is to strong. You never hear the call to nerf party popular jobs, only jobs that can go it alone

[Vae]

Nerf BLU, Nerf SAM, Nerf BLM they are all to powerful. BST has been maligned and ignored by Squeenix for so long, and suddenly it is good again, and everyone cries that it is to strong. You never hear the call to nerf party popular jobs, only jobs that can go it alone

Dude, nerfSAM was a common complaint for a looooooooooooooooooooooooong time. Nerf bard rotations was a complaint for a looooooooooooooooooong time. Jeez, it was barely a year ago that people were screaming 24/7 to nerf rudras all day every day. If it's not their favorite job, they're going to complain something else is more powerful. ALWAYS. Just because you don't pay attention to it, doesn't mean it isn't happening.

Outcry for nerfs/buffs is a constant thing, since day 1, until day last, there will always be complaints for nerfs, because square has no concept of actual balance.

See what *actually* needs nerfing is the absurd elemental damage changes. It's by and large the most broken thing square has ever done, but wheres the nerf for that?

No one asks for solo friendly jobs to get nerfed, they nerfed bst because it was being used in groups to completely overpower everything with zero effort. When bst was soloing abyssea content the nerf cries were only because they took so damn long to do it, not because they could do it.

Of note though, the distance changes to indirectly nerf beast, is the most ridiculous nerf square has ever done. It's absolutely insane. Completely ruins the spirit of the beastmaster.