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    Player Insaniac's Avatar
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    [dev1006] Why limit the number of weapons we can cap.

    There's no reason at all to limit us to capping 2 weapons via merits. Many of us have more than 2 dd jobs we really like to play as. Just let us cap them all.

    Please forgive my punctuation fail in the thread title.

    Edit: Having read the official post wrong I was mistaken and the new max capped weapons is 4.
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    Last edited by Insaniac; 04-06-2011 at 10:56 PM.

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    Player Garota's Avatar
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    Why are job specific merits not mentioned? I'm sure it'll be brought up later. In any case, the only thing I'd truly like to know is, what is the difference between "Maximum Total Ability Increase by Category" and "Maximum Number of Upgrades by Ability"? I don't understand. Both HP/MP and Attributes are increased by the same quantity. Others is in the first is Others: increased from 8 to 10 and in the other increased from 4 to 5. I don't get it.
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    other actually have a max of 8 point but you can use just 4 to max

    so you can max 2 option with 4 point or use 2 point in all 4 option, but u cant put 5 and 3...

    now we will be able to use a total of 10 point with a max of 5 in a single option: so 5+5 or 4+4+2 and so on...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Garota View Post
    Why are job specific merits not mentioned?
    If I were to venture a guess, it's because the majority of these merits aren't directed towards improving the individual performance of any particular job. Being able to get another 1% crit rate merit, a few more HP and some Str is a nice boost of course. However, the most important (and long overdue) changes are to the Weapon/Magic classes, which boost the player's ability to merit multiple jobs.

    Being able to fully merit a third magic skill, as well as an additional Offensive and Defensive combat skill (or a total of 4 Offensive combat skills) is something players have been asking for for years. Granted, these updates come at an awkward time since there really isn't a combat skill worth meriting right now aside from H2H (or potentially GKT for War/Nin Red procs). However, it is possible for new Overworld content to change that dynamic, in which case this would be a huge boon to players who wish to merit weapons/magic for multiple jobs.
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    You will still only be able to max 2 weapons and 1 combat skill. They are raising the individual caps to 12 on weapons meaning we will have 8 left over merits to spend after capping 2 weapons. I don't understand the reasoning behind it. There's no balance that would be upset by just allowing us to put 12 merits in every single weapon.
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    Player Kingofgeeks's Avatar
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    giving us a limit as to what we can cap really promotes strategy into what you want. I fully support SE forcing us to choose what is our best jobs via merit limitations
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    Player Daniel_Hatcher's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Insaniac View Post
    You will still only be able to max 2 weapons and 1 combat skill. They are raising the individual caps to 12 on weapons meaning we will have 8 left over merits to spend after capping 2 weapons. I don't understand the reasoning behind it. There's no balance that would be upset by just allowing us to put 12 merits in every single weapon.
    HP/MP: Increased from 8 to 12
    Attributes: Increased from 5 to 8
    Combat Skills: Increased from 20 to 32
    Magic Skills: Increased from 16 to 24
    Others: Increased from 8 to 10

    Maximum Number of Upgrades by Ability

    HP/MP: Increased from 8 to 12
    Attributes: Increased from 5 to 8
    Others: Increased from 4 to 5
    No they haven't. Magic and Combat Skills are still 4~8.
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    Player Insaniac's Avatar
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    Oh jeez you're right. I blame lack of sleep but I still think they should just let us cap all of them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Insaniac View Post
    Oh jeez you're right. I blame lack of sleep but I still think they should just let us cap all of them.
    Agreed. Some mage jobs have 3 native magic skills. They should have been at LEAST at 24 caps out of the gate, then give us 8 more so we could merit another job like maybe SMN or BLU. Never understood that design.

    Same applies for weapons. Every job has at LEAST 2 weapons they can speciallize in--even mages--and some up to 4.

    Kudos for finally working towards a more reasonable setup SE... but, seriously, if nothing else these two categories should be higher still.
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    Player Gropitou's Avatar
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    Remove the Category Limits altogether, let people merit all they can and want.
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