1,200 Job Points is too much!

[Alhanelem]

Welp, people who came back during this time aren't apparently cool enough to get an unlimited CAP bonus ring. That's just wonderful.

[Siviard]

Welp, people who came back during this time aren't apparently cool enough to get an unlimited CAP bonus ring. That's just wonderful.

That's what happens when you play 14. Just Saying.....

[Alhanelem]

That's what happens when you play 14. Just Saying.....

They're sure trying real hard to get me to switch, just saying....

They should be enticing people to come back, not giving them the middle finger.

I seem to remember at least one past return home campaign they gave returning players the EXP ring that had been given at the prior Appreciation event. There's no reason they couldn't have done that again...

Apparently my mule had green mog pells (even though it has been inactive for several years) but the Vocation ring isn't sendable within account. So I can't even get my hands on that.

[bazookatooth]

They should really just add the rings to the home nation NPCs. It's pretty dumb penalizing the people who pay, but don't play much by making them want to play less. I know that in someone's broken mind getting exp. slower means you will play more, but in reality it means that you just won't exp.

If anyone needs proof, just reference this and other threads where people talk about how much they love farming JP and then proceed to list all the different rings, capes, KI's and campaigns they use to make it so that they have to farm JP less often.

[Vold]

JP do pick up the more you progress, but 1200 JP is too much...when you're forced to using specific jobs for their points. I see no reason this system couldn't have worked the same way merits did. It would be ideal in the era we're playing in. This could have worked many years ago but not now. I'm regulated to playing painful low DPS jobs solo to get them JPs. I can't even fathom what mages have to deal with. It's basically group or gtfo with any real progress. SMN is probably best off amongst them.

I imagine if I had my way, I'd be done with at least one job to 1200 by now. My server isn't exactly dying for JP groups. There's the soloers, and maybe a duo here and there. I'm highly tempted to break our one rule on the server which seems to be {I'm playing solo right now} if it means getting 40 frickin JPs per hour.

[Alhanelem]

Personally I prefer earning things on the job I"m earning them for. But the sheer volume is kind of excessive. I agree with job points being earned by the job. Otherwise they shouldn't be called job points.

My only issue here other than total number is just screwing over people who left. A bonus reward like this (which required no effort, was just totally free) isn't something that only some people should have. And if the number of job points needed wasn't so overkill, I might not have unsubbed in the first place.

[Zarchery]

Personally I prefer earning things on the job I"m earning them for. But the sheer volume is kind of excessive. I agree with job points being earned by the job. Otherwise they shouldn't be called job points.

My only issue here other than total number is just screwing over people who left. A bonus reward like this (which required no effort, was just totally free) isn't something that only some people should have. And if the number of job points needed wasn't so overkill, I might not have unsubbed in the first place.

It's not really screwing people who left. It's rewarding people who stuck around. A customer loyalty program. Folks who stuck around pumped more money to the company; it is just that they would be rewarded for that.

[Zarchery]

You can build some crazy momentum once the bonuses start stacking.

+39% Mecistopins Mantle, +31% from Gifts, +124% from Records of Eminence objective (total +194%), and +150% from Trizek Ring. Then chain bonuses kick in.

[Alhanelem]

It's not really screwing people who left. It's rewarding people who stuck around. A customer loyalty program. Folks who stuck around pumped more money to the company; it is just that they would be rewarded for that.

It depends on how you approach it, glass half empty or glass half full. It can be seen as either a bonus for you or a penalty for me.

Also, about percentages, as per above, they stack additively, not multiplicatively.

E.g. if you have a 5 10 and 20% bonus, you have a total bonus of 35%. You aren't getting +5%, then +10% of the result, then +20% of that result.

[Zarchery]

The base is fine as it is. The numbers check for a +6% increase versus an 87% increase, relative to the current rate.

It's like a guy started his job with a salary of $50,000 a year, then after a year got a 5% raise so he was making $52,500. Then after another year his salary was again increased to $56,000. To figure out the percentage of the 2nd raise, figure it out based on the difference between $52,500 and $56,000, NOT the difference between the original $50,000 and $56,000.