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    I also agree, im an owner of an iaso Bliaut, i only know one other person with this body piece on the server (Slyph).

    Out of all the materials to craft much of the Iaso set, the materials are nigh impossible to get. Noone does prov watcher on the server, so the Sercia cloth is impossible to get apart from if you acquire it from a gobbie box. Other things i feel i should point out, is anything leathercraft related to get on the server is impossible.
    Theres one mule who is a leathercrafter, and one Japanese player who is a leathercrafter on the server, that people know off.
    Anything of that crafting line is impossible to get (theres a reason why there is 10~ Wretched coats on the server).

    Most of these set's at +1 status are nigh impossible to get, and those with HQs should not be punished, but rewarded for being able to find a crafter who can craft in the first place. Not further punished in trying to get the new vexed equipment. The crafting for these is just too Punishing for players.
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    At least there should be a recipe that uses the NQ vexed and bewitched items that will let you try for a high quality again. Like a vexed item and an Eschite Ore that can HQ into a vexed -1.
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    Last edited by Ulth; 08-06-2015 at 06:15 AM.

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    Guess crafters don't need to complain anymore about how their crafts are useless (most of them anyway).
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    I think SE's (Flawed) thinking was that people would spam the old content so they could make new gear, instead of trying to upgrade stuff they already had. They want people who already have the gear to have to help people who don't have it do the old content that they missed the first time.
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    Voidwatch is terrible, I hate voidwatch. I hate its proc system, I hate its drop system. Basically it's boring and the only thing challenging about it is getting the right people with the right jobs for procs. It was a mistake and they should make the items people want from it drop elsewhere.

    Anyway new suggestion. Swap the recipe levels so the one that uses the NQ has a better chance to HQ, and have the HQ recipe make the HQ version instead of the NQ. That way crafters only have to HQ once, people who already bought HQ ages ago don't get shafted, and there are still NQ that casual players might be able to afford.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ulth View Post
    Voidwatch is terrible, I hate voidwatch. I hate its proc system, I hate its drop system. Basically it's boring and the only thing challenging about it is getting the right people with the right jobs for procs. It was a mistake and they should make the items people want from it drop elsewhere.

    Anyway new suggestion. Swap the recipe levels so the one that uses the NQ has a better chance to HQ, and have the HQ recipe make the HQ version instead of the NQ. That way crafters only have to HQ once, people who already bought HQ ages ago don't get shafted, and there are still NQ that casual players might be able to afford.
    This post is just.... pitiful. Stop whining already. Casuals can't afford NQ, really? Let's do the math shall we using the costs from your server of Valefor:

    Let's say you wanted to get the Adhemar Bonnet. First you use the NQ Hexed Bonnet which costs about 710k in ingredients to craft.
    Then you need Waktza Crest which is 20k, Hepatizon Ingot which is 100k, and the Eschite Ore which hasn't sold on your server yet, but on others is going for as low as 100k all the way up to 1.5 mil. Just to be very lenient in your favor I will use the highest price of 1.5 mil for this calculation.

    That brings us to a grand total of.... 2.33 mil. You're telling me casuals can't afford that, in this game which is ridiculously easy and an economy where gil is so easy to obtain? Then those casuals should not be complaining, they should work on not being such bad players.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Singforu View Post
    This post is just.... pitiful. Stop whining already. Casuals can't afford NQ, really? Let's do the math shall we using the costs from your server of Valefor:

    Let's say you wanted to get the Adhemar Bonnet. First you use the NQ Hexed Bonnet which costs about 710k in ingredients to craft.
    Then you need Waktza Crest which is 20k, Hepatizon Ingot which is 100k, and the Eschite Ore which hasn't sold on your server yet, but on others is going for as low as 100k all the way up to 1.5 mil. Just to be very lenient in your favor I will use the highest price of 1.5 mil for this calculation.

    That brings us to a grand total of.... 2.33 mil. You're telling me casuals can't afford that, in this game which is ridiculously easy and an economy where gil is so easy to obtain? Then those casuals should not be complaining, they should work on not being such bad players.
    Those prices are for items that were more or less unwanted 2 days ago. They will probably rise considerably when people start making all this stuff over and over.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bazookatooth View Post
    Those prices are for items that were more or less unwanted 2 days ago. They will probably rise considerably when people start making all this stuff over and over.
    While the ingredients cost may go up, the end item should go down. Reason being is that the "look at me" crowd will be spamming for HQ, and so there will be a ton of NQs that will go for cheap.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Singforu View Post
    This post is just.... pitiful. Stop whining already. Casuals can't afford NQ, really? Let's do the math shall we using the costs from your server of Valefor:

    Let's say you wanted to get the Adhemar Bonnet. First you use the NQ Hexed Bonnet which costs about 710k in ingredients to craft.
    Then you need Waktza Crest which is 20k, Hepatizon Ingot which is 100k, and the Eschite Ore which hasn't sold on your server yet, but on others is going for as low as 100k all the way up to 1.5 mil. Just to be very lenient in your favor I will use the highest price of 1.5 mil for this calculation.

    That brings us to a grand total of.... 2.33 mil. You're telling me casuals can't afford that, in this game which is ridiculously easy and an economy where gil is so easy to obtain? Then those casuals should not be complaining, they should work on not being such bad players.
    You misunderstood. If you go back and read I suggested making a recipe that uses the NQ for a chance at a HQ. However I have since realized that would make it so there are no NQ available ever. Really the problem here that people are complaining about is how low the chance of getting a HQ. If you want to do some math, do it for that.
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    meh. all that needs to happen from S.E is that the necessary synth materials needs to be come more common. which possibly could of already happened or will be planned by the last update.

    and reducing/easing the hq reverting. 3 abj and umbral marrow is ridiculous. every thing else will settle itself over time.

    we havent sorted thru the update, there is no real reason to be so dramatic.
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