Please don't nerf beastmaster

[machini]

If you don't understand why comparing magic pet damage to melee dd damage is a bad comparison, you have fully demonstrated your lack of insight.

[scaevola]

We weren't talking about magic vs. melee; we were talking about the throughput of BST vs. a different job.

Are BLMs killing it as solo DDs now? Are SCHs self-MBing and not dying?

[Ataraxia]

DNC is actually doing just fine. Rudra's Storm getting nerfed really didn't do much to DNC at all. I'd say more, but I don't want butthurt SAMs to get DNC nerfed.

That part I already know. It's like i said earlier it only benefit DNC with mythic Dagger because they get a 30% increase in Pyrrhic Kleos. Not everyone has the gil to make over 200,000,000+ gil. It's not fair to casual player who can't afford to make mythic. If you have a LS that want your DNC in event than that's good but DNC will not get invite in shout and I don't think people want dnc on Vagary. People want job like rdm, geo, cor and bst at this point.

Since I play both job of THF and DNC i think THF is far better when your dealing with Urmahlulu T3 Escha NM. If your a mythic user than your over the top DD.

[scaevola]

That part I already know. It's like i said earlier it only benefit DNC with mythic Dagger because they get a 30% increase in Pyrrhic Kleos. Not everyone has the gil to make over 200,000,000+ gil. It's not fair to casual player who can't afford to make mythic. If you have a LS that want your DNC in event than that's good but DNC will not get invite in shout and I don't think people want dnc on Vagary. People want job like rdm, geo, cor and bst at this point.

The reason DNC doesn't get invites to Vagary has nothing to do with its damage output. It's because melee is so vulnerable on bosses (the only things that live long enough for them to be good for) that you only want one for a self-SC, and while DNC's self-SC potential is great there's no reason to use one when SAM exists.

Since I play both job of THF and DNC i think THF is far better when your dealing with Urmahlulu T3 Escha NM. If your a mythic user than your over the top DD.

On what basis? Is THF bringing something other than a 3000 TP SA Rudra's closer, which is something DNC/SAM can not only do, but do better (2k TP > Sekka > PK > Evis > Reverse > Climactic > Rudra's, or just Evis > Reverse > Clim > Rudra's)?

[machini]

Anyone who thinks DNC is not durable has not seen a DNC with capped MDT and overcapped PDT via fan dance.

There are plenty of things that will murder a DNC, just as there are plenty of things that will murder everything that's not a PLD or RUN, but DNC is capable of tanking and dealing damage at the same time.

The reason DNC doesn't get invited to things is the playerbase are full of idiots who don't understand how the job works and are incapable of following any strategy more complicated than "spam fudo"

[machini]

I've seriously had people question whether or not a mythic DNC is even capable of dealing damage. Too many people in this game are "loldnc" players. And there are few things more enjoyable than watching a SAM throw a tantrum when I out-damage and out-tank them. Which was not hard to do without the mythic, and is trivially easy to do now.

[Draylo-]

We get it, you are desperate to save BST. You don't have to defend it so hard with silly claims that anyone can see through, the devs already know the situation atm and are responding.

[machini]

We get it, you are desperate to save BST. You don't have to defend it so hard with silly claims that anyone can see through, the devs already know the situation atm and are responding.

Dude, I'm not desperate to save BST. My BST is level 15.

What I am sick and tired of is people who don't know a job, don't play a job, don't understand the job, who see a job doing well, and throw a hissy fit and get it nerfed because they're bad players.

[machini]

"oh hey this BST who has 100/+ million gil worth of gear, two different COR buffs, and GEO buff and debuff on target is outdamaging my sparks 117 SAM on 119/+ content. THIS IS NOT FAIR SAM IS THE BEST"

[machini]

I also love how you're grinding BST levels in Abyssea La Theine right now.