Please don't nerf beastmaster

[dasva]

Not true.

Maybe your blu isn't as good as you think it is

[dasva]

dasva, I like you but this is nutty. "Wrong" augment? What? Does the system magically know what augment you want out of the pool and weight that augment for you?

Um no it isn't. Read up a little or do it a bit more because you are clearly a little low on what is what in the system. Wrong augments refer to getting ones not associated with those stones. For example getting a pet augment with a tip stone. It's fairly common with nq stones and I've yet to see it with a +2.

Tell you what; you buy one duskorb +2 for 400k and I'll buy 40 NQs at 10k each, and we'll see who has the more desirable augment at the end.

I've done both for multiple jobs for multiple augments. So I know multiple times so I'll go with my +2 or maybe +1. Also in the time you actually spend trading all those extra stones could've farmed a few more...

Just messing around in chump E AAs for testing (obviously I got trashed), patrick's hitting Tail Blow for about 3k with no melee pet stat gear on except Kerecahtl.

My SAM fudos in full 119 with Tsurumaru and what was maybe 10 or 12 STR away from the best WS set at the time I stopped playing it (though I shelved him before alluvion armor came out) for about 4k on such targets without attack buffs.

But I guess that's okay because Patrick has to wait 10 seconds to WS, whereas my SAM, with luck, only has to wait 7 or 8.

Sure on trash content and/or completely unbuffed bst will win. I mean until recently jugs were basically about as strong as a completely unbuffed DD and clearly needed something. Most people kind of wanted to just allow pets to be buffed as that will be somewhat easier to balance. SE decided to just buff pets and give more equipment with pet stats. Not perfect as that means pets are decently stronger in no buff about the same in low buff and then still fairly lacking in high buff situations. All that -ready is basically our full haste buff/set

[dasva]

Oh no 42-60k dmg in just a minute and vagary!!! How could any DD hope to ever deal that incredible amount dmg... oh wait.



Seriously if you think 1k dps is huge in this day and age I don't know what to tell you other than git gud and stop trying to solo with trusts

[scaevola]

Um no it isn't. Read up a little or do it a bit more because you are clearly a little low on what is what in the system. Wrong augments refer to getting ones not associated with those stones. For example getting a pet augment with a tip stone. It's fairly common with nq stones and I've yet to see it with a +2.

Oh, that's what you meant. I haven't really experienced that augmenting sets for jobs I don't care about with NQs, but anecdotez.

Oh no 42-60k dmg in just a minute and vagary!!! How could any DD hope to ever deal that incredible amount dmg... oh wait.

I mean, yeah, I definitely think magic bursts are way more broken than BST right now* but that seems to be what The People want and we've all sort of abandoned the lie that we ever wanted this game to be challenging, so if giving me 800k for a snowdim +2 is making people feel skilled, whatever.






*I don't even care if BST gets nerfed or not, really; I'm just debating this delusion that a BST needs to spend anywhere close to 100 million gil to get to the point that people are complaining about, like an extra 5 attack per augment slot is making the heavens open wide

[Draylo-]

That pic just loaded for me, we're talking about melee DD here. BST can do better than other melee DD options and doesn't need the support that those melee would. Saevel put it best in this thread earlier on and you can re-read his post on it. Why take a WAR or a DRK that requires a BRD or additional GEO buffs (indi-haste/etc) in addition to a WHM/healer when you can just bring a BST. I don't see how you would think they would nerf THF and leave BST as it is atm.

[machini]

Dude, just stop you are trying way too hard atm. Escha and Vagary aren't trash content and you can see the most vocal BST's doing that with ease and spamming 7~10k+ ws every 10 seconds. Anyone with a brain can see that no other DD job is going to keep up with that, especially under a situation where the NM tosses out debuffs (which is quite often.)

I can spam 7 to 10k WSes often enough to consistently self chain. I do more damage than a BST, especially when I'm as buffed as they are for the content they do. The fact of the matter is that you are an ignorant, rude person who takes delight in other people's fun being ruined for no reason other than you don't like that their big numbers are bigger than your big numbers, or that a job excelling at what it was designed to excel at.

[dasva]

First, lol at you telling me to "git gud". Second, SE already knows whats up. I'm gonna pass along here, the work is done. BST already getting a nerf, and more to come.

Was it as funny as I found 700-1k dps being something no other DD can obtain? Because I'm still laughing my about that one and I'm sure anyone who takes DDing seriously is as well. And that nerf is really just fixing something they didn't intend. They wanted jugs to skillchain with players or other pets easily do with themselves over and over again. But keep telling yourself that bst is so OP and SE recognizes this despite saying they just want to deal with the skillchain/MB option

[Malthar]

Children! Your mom has a headache. Stop fighting.

And I thought you weren't going to comment anymore, Dray? lol

Dasva, stop raising his dander. lol

[bazookatooth]

That pic just loaded for me, we're talking about melee DD here. BST can do better than other melee DD options and doesn't need the support that those melee would. Saevel put it best in this thread earlier on and you can re-read his post on it. Why take a WAR or a DRK that requires a BRD or additional GEO buffs (indi-haste/etc) in addition to a WHM/healer when you can just bring a BST. I don't see how you would think they would nerf THF and leave BST as it is atm.

NO, Saevel's been talking about how easy it is to build a MAB set for BST and steam roll every other DD. And we've been trying repeatedly to tell him how wrong he is both about how easy it is to build and how unimportant it is even if you have it. It makes perfect sense to post screens of other magic jobs doing 10X the damage he's so upset about. BSTs require buffs to do the damage you guys are so butt hurt about too. Read the thread before you post. They need GEO and COR buffs just like melee do. Just different buffs.

You guys are really just outing yourselves as knowing nothing about how this game works.

[dasva]

It's not as funny as your desperation in attacking anyone who thinks BST should be nerfed. Have you ever had a discussion before without resorting to attacking and name calling? You also conveniently skip over the facts that were brought up multiple times.

still not as funny as how you say anyone disagreeing with you is attacking you but you telling people they are trying to hard and lying or that they don't have half a brain with others is apparently showing everyone the "facts". Also didn't you say you were done here last page? Also git gud isn't name calling it's telling you to get better