Please don't nerf beastmaster

[scaevola]

We weren't talking about magic vs. melee; we were talking about the throughput of BST vs. a different job.

Are BLMs killing it as solo DDs now? Are SCHs self-MBing and not dying?

[bazookatooth]

Running around in Escha. MAB and -DT augments are giving me more AoE than a BLM with the survivability of a less-than-amazing-or-maybe-just-lazy PLD. It's dumb.

I don't think it's bad; it's a little annoying when I'm grinding silt but oh well, who cares? Reducing the single target via nerfing pet skillchains seems like a fair trade, though, which is all it sounds like they're planning on doing. I'm here to defend that decision.

So you're idea of ruining game balance is being better than some jobs at killing Even match monsters? /smh

Yes, BLM can blow stuff up nonstop in escha just like bst. I do it all the time. I've actually been GMd twice by JP players for hogging all the pops on BLM and BLU. You pull out healer /support trusts, throw up stoneskin, aquaveil and phalanx, put on your movement+ gear, train a bunch of mobs, engage one until your healer trust cures back whatever damage you took during the pull and then aga them all. Just like beast. There are also better camps outside escha where BLM can just run around one shotting things even better CP than BST can get in escha.

Why?

Because even if your NQ stones somehow got you near max augments, that magic damage set you described isn't gonna outparse any DD job on anything but farming fodder in escha. And even if it magically somehow did, your pet would just die without the DT- stats on your gear. You might as well say ninja is over powered because it can proc stuff in abyssea.

[machini]

Anyone who thinks DNC is not durable has not seen a DNC with capped MDT and overcapped PDT via fan dance.

There are plenty of things that will murder a DNC, just as there are plenty of things that will murder everything that's not a PLD or RUN, but DNC is capable of tanking and dealing damage at the same time.

The reason DNC doesn't get invited to things is the playerbase are full of idiots who don't understand how the job works and are incapable of following any strategy more complicated than "spam fudo"

[machini]

I've seriously had people question whether or not a mythic DNC is even capable of dealing damage. Too many people in this game are "loldnc" players. And there are few things more enjoyable than watching a SAM throw a tantrum when I out-damage and out-tank them. Which was not hard to do without the mythic, and is trivially easy to do now.

[Draylo-]

We get it, you are desperate to save BST. You don't have to defend it so hard with silly claims that anyone can see through, the devs already know the situation atm and are responding.

[machini]

We get it, you are desperate to save BST. You don't have to defend it so hard with silly claims that anyone can see through, the devs already know the situation atm and are responding.

Dude, I'm not desperate to save BST. My BST is level 15.

What I am sick and tired of is people who don't know a job, don't play a job, don't understand the job, who see a job doing well, and throw a hissy fit and get it nerfed because they're bad players.

[Draylo-]

Dude, I'm not desperate to save BST. My BST is level 15.

What I am sick and tired of is people who don't know a job, don't play a job, don't understand the job, who see a job doing well, and throw a hissy fit and get it nerfed because they're bad players.

Really seems like it man, you are posting multiple times in this thread over and over. People are allowed to give their opinion, even if its in opposition to what you think. The dev's know what they wanna do with the game. If you are implying I'm one of those people, then you are mistaken.

[machini]

"oh hey this BST who has 100/+ million gil worth of gear, two different COR buffs, and GEO buff and debuff on target is outdamaging my sparks 117 SAM on 119/+ content. THIS IS NOT FAIR SAM IS THE BEST"

[Draylo-]

"oh hey this BST who has 100/+ million gil worth of gear, two different COR buffs, and GEO buff and debuff on target is outdamaging my sparks 117 SAM on 119/+ content. THIS IS NOT FAIR SAM IS THE BEST"

Except other jobs put the same amount of effort and gil into them.

[bazookatooth]

Except other jobs put the same amount of effort and gil into them.

And they do more damage.

but no, my monk, sam, thf, dnc, and rng were far cheaper to gear. My DT- set on BST cost more my SAM, MNK, THF and DNC combined. And my pet still doesn't outdamage them. It's just situationally safer. As was already stated, I'm screwed if the mob has curse, doom, break, etc.