Please don't nerf beastmaster

[Rpro]

And any other DD when buffed with Chaos Roll, and a GEO doing Fury/Frailty also tears up. Your point being?

The difference is when the pet dies, the master just jugs another one to keep fighting. Non-pet jobs can't really do that, ya know.

[dasva]

The difference is when the pet dies, the master just jugs another one to keep fighting. Non-pet jobs can't really do that, ya know.

Magic and ranged dmg jobs can unless double weak though if magic and ranged jobs are dying that often you probably have other issues as well.

And that only works if call beast is up... which is the interestingly the same recast as normal weakness duration (done on purpose?) though arise is lower for the whms that have that. Just you can "precharge" the time with call beast. Though really drgs have it the worst... 20 min call wyvern recast on a job that stays in melee range is painful

[bazookatooth]

The difference is when the pet dies, the master just jugs another one to keep fighting. Non-pet jobs can't really do that, ya know.

And when the NIN dies, he just Mijin Gakures himself back to full power. I'd start a thread about how unfair it is that Ninja gets all those shadows and a weakness free death every hour, but I'm actually fond of my ninja and I don't mind other people having nice things.

[bazookatooth]

I don't know what DDs are outparsing a BST right now but it will be under a well-buffed situation, if you put a DD under the same constrictions as solo BST, the have no haste, no att/acc buffs and no heals so they're dead in a minute at the most. If you ignore the whole dying aspect, an unbuffed DD doesn't hold a candle to BST right now, who, when geared correctly solo Difficult fights that otherwise generally require a party to defeat.

How is that not broken? There would be no problem with BST becoming strong enough that they warrant a DD spot in a party, or hell even a tanking one but to be able to solo fights that should require a party is OP.

So basically you're upset because a job that was designed to solo and has always been good at solo is better than other jobs at solo? makes sense...

Out of curiosity, what content are these beasts doing solo that other jobs can't? And do I mean solo. Because BST can't get any meaningful buffs from trusts and is certainly not out damaging another DD who has trust bard / cor / haste II. You can't solo escha. Requires 3 people just to pop. Can't solo delve. Can't solo vagary. So What's left that they can they do solo? One tier higher difficulty on a couple of the more gimicky AAs and Avatars that almost no one does any more anyways? Because if you use your google power, you'll find that other jobs can solo those too. Is that really what you call over powered?

It gets worse when you put them together with a COR and GEO. Beast roll, Companion Roll with Fraility and / or Torpor (depending on fight and how good the GEO's -DT set is), those pets are suddenly doing monstrous damage non stop. They are completely replaceable and three to four BST's can crush anything in the game doing that. Some of those pets have insane defensive stats, and because they aren't players they can actually evade and take hits from high level targets.

You give them cor and geo buffs and 3-4 <Any DD> can beat almost anything in the game. It's been that way for most content since like oh... 2009?..

[Tidis]

BST wasn't designed to be a solo job but keep telling yourself that, it became a solo job due to the old 30% exp penalty when using a pet, that no longer happens. Also thinking that BST is OP does not mean I or anyone, disagreeing with you is upset, it's just your way of deflecting the argument.

No job should be soloing content like Difficult merit fights except for very extreme circumstances, I'm sure many of you have seen the videos of the SCH who solos difficult/very difficult fights, that would be an extreme circumstance as he is very well geared and skilled enough to handle the various situations of the fight.

Whereas with BST you just need some decent gearsets, some job points and you're set.

[Ritsuka]

So basically you're upset because a job that was designed to solo and has always been good at solo is better than other jobs at solo? makes sense...

Out of curiosity, what content are these beasts doing solo that other jobs can't? And do I mean solo. Because BST can't get any meaningful buffs from trusts and is certainly not out damaging another DD who has trust bard / cor / haste II. You can't solo escha. Requires 3 people just to pop. Can't solo delve. Can't solo vagary. So What's left that they can they do solo? One tier higher difficulty on a couple of the more gimicky AAs and Avatars that almost no one does any more anyways? Because if you use your google power, you'll find that other jobs can solo those too. Is that really what you call over powered?



You give them cor and geo buffs and 3-4 <Any DD> can beat almost anything in the game. It's been that way for most content since like oh... 2009?..

bst can solo Delve all of them and other jobs cant?

[bazookatooth]

bst can solo Delve all of them and other jobs cant?

You can ennter delve solo now?

And yet the 10 second cooldown is so powerful people do it anyway.

I could say the same thing about every disadvantage you stated about any other DD job. Your point is moot.

[dasva]

bst can solo Delve all of them and other jobs cant?

Um way before bst was sch was

[Ritsuka]

Um way before bst was sch was

I dont think sch can solo Toji Wolfbeer solo's them all. He is a bst and even says its over powered.

[Draylo-]

It's not about only beating almost anything and you also conveniently skip over the fact they don't have to be in range of debuffs or require a specific healer or TANK because they can do both. They can also do AOE stuff down for massive damage (which only BLU can really do.) Why take 3-4 DD + Buffs + HEALER + TANK(can drop this if DD can tank) when you can take 2 BST + Buffs? See the difference ? Too many bonuses and not enough negatives. Also no, you pretty much can't take a DD like a DRK and put them in a VD fight with trusts and have them solo better than a BST or really anything as they will get creamed. BST does get meaningful buffs from trusts as well, distract, dia3, they can also melee too.