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    Player brayen's Avatar
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    an ability like sublimation that converts tp gained per tic, when used again it dumps all the tp back to the user(maybe at half the drain rate 2tp stores = 1 tp back?). so you got tp for a ws(mykr/spirit taker)(or any other ability that uses tp if they ever add more then just for dancer).
    Conclusion: occult acumen (as well as any stray regain spell or effects) are converted into something useful every so often w/o the major sacrifice of your staff bonus
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    Player Alhanelem's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by brayen View Post
    an ability like sublimation that converts tp gained per tic, when used again it dumps all the tp back to the user(maybe at half the drain rate 2tp stores = 1 tp back?). so you got tp for a ws(mykr/spirit taker)(or any other ability that uses tp if they ever add more then just for dancer).
    Conclusion: occult acumen (as well as any stray regain spell or effects) are converted into something useful every so often w/o the major sacrifice of your staff bonus
    There already do exist items that drain your TP to do something. That doesn't make there be any harm in functional weapon skills on staves being of utility to a class that isn't good at melee. But being able to use them shouldn't have to come at the cost of having to use an inferior staff for your normal activities.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alhanelem View Post
    There already do exist items that drain your TP to do something. That doesn't make there be any harm in functional weapon skills on staves being of utility to a class that isn't good at melee. But being able to use them shouldn't have to come at the cost of having to use an inferior staff for your normal activities.
    not understanding what you are saying here at all in response to my post? can you please clarify?
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    Player Alhanelem's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by brayen View Post
    not understanding what you are saying here at all in response to my post? can you please clarify?
    I think I misinterpreted your suggestion. I thought you meant invent an ability that drains your TP to gain some sort of effect, but you meant store away TP for use later.

    That said, every sentence after the first one is still somewhat applicable.
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    Actually, it sounds like he's suggesting some sort of cross between Sublimation and Finishing Moves/Reverse Flourish. Activate the ability, and all the TP you gain via Occult Acumen goes into a "bubble" instead of you getting it directly. Then at any time you want you can re-use the ability and have the accumulated TP dumped on you. Perhaps have it reach full at 100 TP (rather than allowing you to build all the way to 300 TP).

    Interesting idea.
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  6. #26
    Player Alhanelem's Avatar
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    Yeah, I actually kind of like that. It would solve the problem pretty effectively and allow a nuker to use the appropriate weapon for the situation and still be able to use the TP he has collected.
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    What we need is for them to modify Hvergelmir to have a hidden effect to have elemental affinity to all elements.
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    Player Alhanelem's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shadotter View Post
    What we need is for them to modify Hvergelmir to have a hidden effect to have elemental affinity to all elements.
    The development team has a secret rule: Black mages can never have fun, so not going to happen.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shadotter View Post
    What we need is for them to modify Hvergelmir to have a hidden effect to have elemental affinity to all elements.
    Relic staff is damage and Refresh
    blm Mystic is damage, +MAB, and elemental seal
    Emp is only MP restore.

    they were heading in a good direction, then they got lost
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    Player Alhanelem's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tile View Post
    Relic staff is damage and RefreshIt
    blm Mystic is damage, +MAB, and elemental seal
    Emp is only MP restore.

    they were heading in a good direction, then they got lost
    mythic doesn't give accuracy and attack at the same time; And the empyrean also removes most status effects, including silence. Empy will also give you back far more MP than relic+gate of tartarus will. They didn't get lost, they found their way.

    I'd take the mythic over the other two, but don't kid yourself into thinking you get all the aftermath effects at once.
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