How a f2p system could work on ffxi.

[Stompa]

They could sell all farmable items like dynamis coins, alex, snowslit stones etc. This makes money off impatience but a f2p player can still easily farm all these items.

So why not just farm them?

You're contradicting yourself, by saying that in a FTP version where "Player X" will get all of FFXI for free, in a game where RME materials are so easy to farm, and then you say that Player X will still hand over cold hard cash for those easy to get items.

Surely if the person is enjoying the truly awesome FFXI videogame for free, and is able to get these RME items easily, why would they stop enjoying their Free Ride by wasting cash money on those easy items.

It makes no sense, and it didn't in all the previous threads either.

[detlef]

It makes no sense, and it didn't in all the previous threads either.

Be patient. It will most assuredly make sense in the third thread. Please look forward to it.

[Stompa]

Be patient. It will most assuredly make sense in the third thread. Please look forward to it.

I'm counting these two titled threads, and the other threads which got off-topic Ftp advertisements posted in them too, and its already a lot more than three.

Its starting to feel a bit like a hostage-taking situation. "I am holding your beloved FFXI as my hostage, and if you don't let me buy game treasure with dollars, your beloved game will surely die soon."

[Castanica]

I'm counting these two titled threads, and the other threads which got off-topic Ftp advertisements posted in them too, and its already a lot more than three.

Its starting to feel a bit like a hostage-taking situation. "I am holding your beloved FFXI as my hostage, and if you don't let me buy game treasure with dollars, your beloved game will surely die soon."

Stopping console support, 1/3 of JP playes are on consoles.
They aren't offering free PC copies to these console players that have paid many hundreds or thousands of dollars.
They are having an official end to the story.
They are stopping support.

I'm not sure what you take from all that but to me it doesn't state the game has much of a future, the only way that will change is if the game becomes more profitable. Nothing short of a monetisation change is going to do that.

The only future ffxi seems to have is on mobile phones, being run by nexon. Nexon have a terrible reputation.

[Stompa]

Stopping console support, 1/3 of JP playes are on consoles.
They aren't offering free PC copies to these console players that have paid many hundreds or thousands of dollars.
They are having an official end to the story.
They are stopping support.

I'm not sure what you take from all that but to me it doesn't state the game has much of a future, the only way that will change is if the game becomes more profitable. Nothing short of a monetisation change is going to do that.

The only future ffxi seems to have is on mobile phones, being run by nexon. Nexon have a terrible reputation.

I'm not 100% sure of this, but aren't SE offering the full PC game as free download? I haven't really checked it because I'm still running my old install from ages ago, but I think I saw that somewhere.

I have JP friends on my mostly-JP linkshell, some of them are on PS2 and they will change to PC when the time comes. Its only a small sample of players obviously.

The problem I have with these "FtP-or-die" threads is that they are relentless and depressing. The first time it was raised as a topic we all discussed it, and I was like its cool that people are discussing their feelings on it. But its getting really overbearing now.

Also, I do VW with my static, they're all building Empys, they aren't talking about how the game is going to die for sure. They're just playing the game and paying subs for it, and trying to stay optimistic and happy and stuff.

Some people have been building Empys for like 5 years, doing a few hours after finishing work on occasional evenings. How do you think they will feel if some kid can buy the same Empy with $$$ in like a few seconds flat.

I pay subs and sometimes all I do is log-in to give cabbages to my mog-garden pet Karakul, and watch his little happy love-hearts going up. I'm happy paying subs just to mess around and pwn mobs with my friends, I don't think the subs are expensive, and I don't see the end of updates as any kind of killing blow to Vanadiel as an immersive and enjoyable virtual world online.

We don't know that FFXI would survive without subs, using only FtP cash-shop input from occasional players who don't want to play the game and kill mobs and get treasure <That way.> I think this particular game would implode really quickly under the FtP model.

I just think we don't know the future, how the game will manage when the updates stop, maybe there will be more than enough fans paying subs to keep it running for ages, we simply don't know. And in the meantime I would sooner not be bombarded with lots of "the game is going to die!" stuff all the time.