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    Blurple Behemoths. Why is the mogogle scolding me?

    Trying to do the first part of the event, the moogle scolds me to remember my elements, when there is absolutely no in-game indicator of what elements correspond to which weaponskills. How are we supposed to understand how they interact without looking outside of the game? If he's scolding me, there must be some simple way to learn these. The unofficial skillchain charts on the internet are huge and complex. Something needs to simplify this system. Can you add a color to the icons in the menu that says what element is associated for skillchain purposes? This is the most infurioating event ever, because the event expects you to understand an original game mechanic that has never been explained simply in-game, beyond that certain elements combine if you do the weaponskils with a slight delay between them, and you threw a time limit in to the mix to make reading the chart even harder. How much of the population can reasonably be expected to memorize this thing? In real parties when we use skillchains and magic burst, we plan them out ahead of time, not on the fly out of random skills.

    Thank goodness you didn't force mage jobs to do Magic Bursts on reflex instead. The naming of the skillchain effects (at least in English) aren't very indicative of the elements either, and you've got about 20 of those to memorize.

    13 years, and nobody has been able to explain to me why the system works in a way that I can recognize without a multipage guide in front of me. Seeing it in-game live gives no idea to a new player what is going on and why. Friends used to joke they didn't play MMORPGs because they didn't want a doctorate in EverQuest or whatever the popular game was at the time, and this is definitely a mechanic that feels like it needs a college degree in mystic arts to understand.
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    Git gud.


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    PS > Although to be fair I struggled at first to even remember how WS elements worked until I gave the SC chart a good look. But I really liked that the Mog didn't pull any punches and punished you for failing both with his words and with a nice pan to the head that made you lose even more time.

    Not much of that in games anymore these days.
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    The problem is the chart is cluttered with every type, and the event gives you just 5 weapons to work with, one being Blue Magic. The chart is cluttered to work out which types are where, and you have to prine it yourself, which takes a lot of time. If the moogle can say something simple about needing to remember the elements, then they could at least give a simple way to understand what the elements attached even are.

    The 1 minute time limit is just crazy when trying to learn this. Before Abyssea, I only ever got BLM and WHM to cap, I never had to use weaponskills in combat, just spells, and they would call out what they were using beforehand for me to burst on, so I just had to time the spell. Turning it into a reflex game with over 100 WS in it is insane to memorize, for an event that lasts 2 weeks or so.
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    I just blunted my way through it until I hit 100 points, took about 20-30 minutes.

    I agree though, the "fast track" really was just a reward for people who have that stuff memorized.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Isal View Post
    I just blunted my way through it until I hit 100 points, took about 20-30 minutes.
    Same here, although due to a fluke of sheer luck I managed to get a 28 point perfect last round which also pushed me over the 100 points.
    That said, if you manage to get 10 points in a round and have not made any mistake, stop right there and let the clock run out! A perfect round doubles your points putting you at the necessary 20.
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    Player Alhanelem's Avatar
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    Trying to do the first part of the event, the moogle scolds me to remember my elements, when there is absolutely no in-game indicator of what elements correspond to which weaponskills.
    It's a quiz, essentially. Why would they give you the answers?
    If you need the answers, that's what the practice mode is for.
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    I liked it. Reminded me of the time when people knew what WS worked together (Pre Aht-Urghan). Though even then, no-one WS with a staff, Blue Magic wasn't a thing, and half the WS in the event didn't exist. But still.

    /I'm ashamed to say it took me like 30 mins. In my defence, some of the WS were added *after* I left the game and before I came back.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Idleness View Post
    I liked it. Reminded me of the time when people knew what WS worked together (Pre Aht-Urghan). Though even then, no-one WS with a staff, Blue Magic wasn't a thing, and half the WS in the event didn't exist. But still.

    /I'm ashamed to say it took me like 30 mins. In my defence, some of the WS were added *after* I left the game and before I came back.
    That was what bothered me. The event is all about weapon skills that no one ever used / uses. I could understand if the weapon skills were all ones that people would typically use in a party at 75+, but there's no real reason to know most of these skill chains.
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    Player Alhanelem's Avatar
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    The only really cheap part of this is the addition of the Goblin. Neither of the "WS" he uses are actual WS. "Goblin Rush" does not SC the same as the BLU spell in this event- Bomb Toss is magical and shouldn't skillchain at all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alhanelem View Post
    It's a quiz, essentially. Why would they give you the answers?
    If you need the answers, that's what the practice mode is for.
    A quiz where the rules aren't clearly explained for why anything works. Practice mode would make it take even longer, as the weaponskills are picked 2 at a time randomly out of the pool. There's so many for each weapon, that the number of combinations is huge.
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