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    Player Singforu's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shirai View Post
    It won't, those loading times have to do with the fact that bandwith is capped at Dialup speed, upping that however would likely bring other risks along.



    Actually the easiest retooling they can do is change the Cerberus' and Orthrus' mechanics in Bhaflau.
    Bhaflau II itself is extremely easy to speed run with an almost similar Alex yield to Arrapago, the big blockers here however are the bosses with their damage resistance mechanic which make it that only 3 jobs (from the top of my head) can comfortably kill these.
    And 2 of those jobs need very specific conditions.
    any job with an elemental WS or requiescat (or can skillchain with themself) can beat cerb/orthrus easily. I see 8 jobs that can get requiescat. And more than that have access to elemental WSs.
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    I'm not sure why they can't just remove the lockout but keep a tighter limit on the amount of active Arrapago instances up (assuming that was what was causing server issues).

    I don't think people would mind if a zone was just popular and therefore they would have to wait a bit if they wanted to run it. A lot of content in this game has stuff like that, particularly if it's currently the new hot thing (*points at the yztarg + Siren fights in RoV*) so players are used to it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shirai View Post
    It won't, those loading times have to do with the fact that bandwith is capped at Dialup speed, upping that however would likely bring other risks along.



    Actually the easiest retooling they can do is change the Cerberus' and Orthrus' mechanics in Bhaflau.
    Bhaflau II itself is extremely easy to speed run with an almost similar Alex yield to Arrapago, the big blockers here however are the bosses with their damage resistance mechanic which make it that only 3 jobs (from the top of my head) can comfortably kill these.
    And 2 of those jobs need very specific conditions.
    thf/rdm, when I get to the bosses I rudra them once then pull out a sword and use sanguine blade. It takes a while to kill but I normally finish the zone in about an hour.
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    I'm fairly sure the actual potential yield is fairly balanced between all 4 zones, it's just easier to max in Arrapago with less effort. so that said it isn't just a matter of increasing the drop rate in the other zones, they would actually have to change the content itself. I can certainly see why they would be disinclined to do that. not that it matters, if 1 zone is even slightly easier than the other 3, and I can guarantee you that will always be the case, then it will be the zone people use and they will say the other 3 are "broken". people not liking something doesn't make it "broken" just "unpopular", and occasionally a pain in the backside.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Glamdring View Post
    I'm fairly sure the actual potential yield is fairly balanced between all 4 zones, it's just easier to max in Arrapago with less effort. so that said it isn't just a matter of increasing the drop rate in the other zones, they would actually have to change the content itself. I can certainly see why they would be disinclined to do that. not that it matters, if 1 zone is even slightly easier than the other 3, and I can guarantee you that will always be the case, then it will be the zone people use and they will say the other 3 are "broken". people not liking something doesn't make it "broken" just "unpopular", and occasionally a pain in the backside.

    I agree with this statement, not all the zones are broken, just different. I managed to actually get 240 pieces from BRII. Best run to date.
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    How long of that is spent on the cerbs?
    Just out of curiosity.

    (A Bhaf II takes me ~30 minutes, usually a bit less.)
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    Player Ulth's Avatar
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    A lot of time is spent on the cerbs probably like 20 minutes. It might go faster once I get max mab augs on my taeon.

    Edit: Also gear rooms will probably take longer for me than say a blu which could just use Subduction a few times.
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    Last edited by Ulth; 05-29-2015 at 11:25 AM.

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    ~10 min per dog is what I'd personally call uncomfortably long, 5~6 minutes is my definition of a comfortable kill.

    As for the Gears rooms, apart from Blue mage and maybe Black mage I don't see any other job clearing those quickly.
    I usually clear them in 5~6 minutes each gathering the gears in 2 bacthes per room and killing them with 3~4 Thundersparks.
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    Last edited by Shirai; 05-29-2015 at 04:32 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shirai View Post
    ~10 min per dog is what I'd personally call uncomfortably long, 5~6 minutes is my definition of a comfortable kill.

    As for the Gears rooms, apart from Blue mage and maybe Black mage I don't see any other job clearing those quickly.
    I usually clear them in 5~6 minutes each gathering the gears in 2 bacthes per room and killing them with 3~4 Thundersparks.
    on RDM they take me 2-3 minutes. I gather them all together at once and Circle Blade them.

    Dogs take 2-3 minutes as well.
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    Player Ulth's Avatar
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    Whatever, I'm not in any danger of dying, and I like playing thf. And it's not surprising that smn and blu can get though salvage faster.
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