Classic server, what's the argument against it now?

[Prrsha]

It's okay. I understand you can't accept reality.

The fact is every argument for a classic server or why a classic server for FFXI would work or be profitable has been shown to be false and wishful thinking. All you have resorted to now is name-calling, nitpicking, and outright ignoring everything that contradicts your desires. And I'm done dealing with someone such as you.

This peaceful request for a classic server has now turned into name calling because for some reason people and I will bold this... Just cannot accept another person's playstyle and only see things in BLACK and WHITE

In no way is it ANYONE's business to really debate how successful money wise this endeavor would be. That is SE's job. Not the forums. This is a simple post, for a legacy server that clearly people want. If SE wants to take a shot at it and bring back some new players, what harm is there in doing so?

You would still have two kinds of servers.

Why are you whining like a whambulance?

This idea is win win for both sides because... get ready for it... you have a choice.

You can choose the "legacy" server or current one. The question WE pose to SE is if it is viable to do so. In the end opinions about its success are stupid to debate unless you can magically see the future.

People posted similar examples of games, yes they are not FFXI but they are MMORPGs. It tends to show a pattern but, heck, it may work or not. The simple fact that SE is doing the VERY same thing on a phone speaks volumes to how they admit the current system does not work for a new game attracting NEW players. The devs SAID in their fresh pick, that in the past they have focused on new content but in the future will focus on OLD content now and revamping it for new players. What that means is anyone's guess but a "legacy" server would go a long way to achieving that goal.

Again... to finalize this... the OP was ASKING SE for a classic server. NOT erase the current ones. If they have the man power or money to do that, then they should know there is interest in that. Shouting at people and calling them names (or calling the idea stupid) is a trolls way to lock the thread so they can get their way. Please be civil... everyone. Respect everyone's playstyle and see that some people did indeed leave FFXI due to the changes it underwent. The only way to really debate how many would return would be a poll on a neutral (non-pay) site so they could get a tally. Or better yet. SE should e-mail everyone who left the game and ask if they would return if they opened a classic server.

Then... and only then would you have your answer. The ball is really in SE's court now and just bashing people with a new idea to bring in new players to a game you love dearly... WHY? What does this accomplish? A locked thread? Maybe that is what some people want around here.

Since SE is low on resources and said they would no longer make new content, why are you worried if some dev time is directed to a classic server. Even IF it fails, you have lost nothing. The devs aren't giving anymore content, why not try this idea so they can get some possible money out of it and please players who have left. It would take less work to just slap an older version on a server then it is to make an expansion. At the moment SE only has a few options to get players back and the age of using new content to do so is OVER. This idea is really more viable instead of leaving the servers to die as they are now. The number of subs aren't increasing btw, unlike the private servers...

[Prrsha]

It's okay. I understand you can't accept reality.

The fact is every argument for a classic server or why a classic server for FFXI would work or be profitable has been shown to be false and wishful thinking. All you have resorted to now is name-calling, nitpicking, and outright ignoring everything that contradicts your desires.

And I'm done dealing with someone such as you.

You just said people should stop name calling and what did you just say in the SAME post?

[machini]

You just said people should stop name calling and what did you just say in the SAME post?

The issue here is someone said "what's the argument against a classic server now?" and people responded with "the arguments against a classic server" which boil down to "it's not worth the money to SE to make one".

That's it. End of conversation. This thread should be dead and pushing up the daisies.

[nekroturkey]

"it's not worth the money to SE to make one"

Proof?

Otherwise, I'm going to have to counter with "it would be worth the money for SE to make one."

[Shirai]

Bring your best

[machini]

Proof?

Otherwise, I'm going to have to counter with "it would be worth the money for SE to make one."

If SE thought it would make money, they'd do it. The reason they're stopping development of FFXI is there's not enough money in doing more development. The reason they're not making a classic server is they don't think there's enough money in it.

[Prrsha]

This thread should be dead and pushing up the daisies.

Since when you do have the authority to declare a topic dead? Are you a moderator, no.

The point still stands true as there are people who wish SE to consider a classic server. As long as there is, no... the topic is not dead. If anything, it will resurface again and again (like it already has). However now FFXI is not offering anymore new content, this bears repeating.

[machini]

This is just like with the server merger thread. Some guy screams "SE WE NEED SERVER MERGERS" and SE doesn't do them. "SE LOOK AT MY NUMBERS SE WE NEED SERVER MERGERS" and people point out that SE has better numbers than he does. "NO WE NEED MERGERS WHARRHLGMG"

[Prrsha]

If SE thought it would make money, they'd do it. The reason they're stopping development of FFXI is there's not enough money in doing more development. The reason they're not making a classic server is they don't think there's enough money in it.

Proof plz. Do you work for SE? If not your opinion is only that.

[Prrsha]

This is just like with the server merger thread. Some guy screams "SE WE NEED SERVER MERGERS" and SE doesn't do them. "SE LOOK AT MY NUMBERS SE WE NEED SERVER MERGERS" and people point out that SE has better numbers than he does. "NO WE NEED MERGERS WHARRHLGMG"

Honestly... is there an ignore button on the forums. Complaint after complaint instead of a constructive idea or alternative like say...

How about implement a self level cap like I posted in another thread? Eh?

That way people who have maxed there level can level down to a level of their choosing and form a party and have a blast in CoP like it was intended in the "old days"

Something like: /synch Prrsha 20 ... and poof I am level 20.

There are too few players with lower level jobs to do older content with the old fashioned way.