There is another game, named Haven and Hearth, that I really love, except for the fact that it has PvP, and like EVE Online, you are hopelessly behind people who started before you (since gaining stats and abilities is partly time-spent based), and it involves permadeath. These problems are exacerbated the fact the client is opensource java, and people have fiddled with it to let them do a lot of things they couldn't normally, because the client is trusted with more information than it should be.

The creators of it are currently working on a "Haven and Hearth 2.0", which I think they are calling Hafen. It is basically a better version of their game, that seems to be fixing pretty much every problem that the first one had. Except it's still going to have PvP where some jerk who has been playing two months longer than you can murder you and no one cares you just lost 500 hours of work, 'cause lol that's part of the game.

I would seriously be willing to fork over money, when their new game comes out, for a version of the old game I could play with a couple of friends. I'd seriously be willing to pay 50 bucks a copy, and they've been told this by myself and others before. As far as I can tell they don't actually make any money off their game, as they have no advertising or anything anywhere. It's just something they do because they like it.

There are a lot of games out there that I would absolutely love if it weren't for the mandatory PvP and people whose entire goal in life is to ruin the fun of others.

This got a little off topic.

Point is, they'd make a lot of money off a little work.