Lower the days for relic making ?

[Singforu]

They aren't made instantly. You have to earn the currency and then do a bunch of other quests to upgrade them.

you're advocating for them to be made instantly.

The outcome doesn't affect you either way. It only affects me. You said it your self. You don't earn the currency fast enough to be affected by the delay.

Let's be clear here. You aren't arguing that people should have to work harder or be better players. You are arguing that people should just sit and wait. Otherwise they are bad people somehow. Why are we even writing this on the internet? We should be writing letters to each other or sending smoke signals (we should be communicating in the slowest way possible right?). Or just waiting. Instant gratification people... sheesh.

yes you should wait. great works take time to make. so wait like a good boy over in your corner.

[bazookatooth]

you're advocating for them to be made instantly.

No, no I'm not. And you saying that won't make it so.

yes you should wait. great works take time to make. so wait like a good boy over in your corner.

Nope. I'll keep pressing the like button on quality of life change requests. You keep trolling.

[Singforu]

No, no I'm not. And you saying that won't make it so.

Yes, yes you are:

Without SE first creating the wait time, none of this would happen. Understand how that works? Great! Now here's the cool thing. SE can take it out. Not only that, but they've built an entire web forum specifically for people to request changes just like this.

Nope. I'll keep pressing the like button on quality of life change requests. You keep trolling.

I'm not trolling. You're trying to destroy part of the game just like the instant gratification person you are.

[Manux]

Yes, yes you are:
I'm not trolling. You're trying to destroy part of the game just like the instant gratification person you are.

I think he is just suggesting it which I don't think you are able to swallow it and the rest of the players that think its ok to have a freaking 1 week delay for what.

1 week delay you freaking kidding me 4 days would have been fine guess the NPC working over night.

[bazookatooth]

I'm not trolling. You're trying to destroy part of the game just like the instant gratification person you are.

Every time you post on the internet instead of writing me a letter a postal worker loses his job. Stop trying to destroy the postal service you instant gratification person.

Yes, you could apply that logic to just about anything, but that's the thing- it's highly likely to be true. Let me explain something to you as I have some firsthand experience with this type of issue.

FFXI was originally created a very long time ago. I guarantee you that many of the people that wrote the original code no longer work for SE or at least no longer work on the project. Now imagine you're a Jr. programmer and you've been assigned to implement some random requests from the community. You fire up your IDE (devleopment environment) and you start looking for the relevant sections of code. This is when you realize that not only is the code badly written, it's also poorly documented by whoever wrote it, and they aren't here anymore to train anyone on it. Thus, a task that would have been simple for the original author is now a complicated one for the person looking at it, because they don't know where or what to look for.

I do QA work for a small indie studio, and I have watched staff members come and go over the years ive been involved with their projects. We've requested lots of bug fixes and feature tweaks that got rejected just because the original person who designed them doesn't work for the company anymore and they were the only ones who knew how it worked. It would cost them too much time and/or resources to implement it because someone would have to spend many man hours studying the code to figure out how to change it, even if the actual change would have been simple from a logic standpoint.

Just because something seems simple to us, even if some of us are programmers, doesn't mean it actually is simple because of situations like this. It could just be one number some place, but it might take time to find that number, and changing it could possibly break something unrelated- And anyone who's been around here for a long time knows how many random unrelated things have gotten broken every time they release an update.

So, when a community rep comes in here and says "it would be difficult for us to implement," they probably aren't just making it up.

That's a cool story, but the numerous recent changes to quest wait times tells us that someone currently working on the game does know how this works and where to look for it.

Not only that, but go ahead. Since you work with developers, Fire up your integrated development environment (IDE) and try and make a count down timer that doesn't function as described without purposely making it more difficult just to win an argument about a game change that admittedly doesn't affect you and will probably never happen regardless of which one of us is correct.