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    Quote Originally Posted by bazookatooth View Post
    SE created the delay. I fail to see how anyone other than SE has inflicted anything on anyone.
    You knew the delay was there.
    You decided you didn't care.
    You decided to hoard all your items until the very end so that you would run into the delay.

    Your request sounds like saying "Please remove damage penalty from Monks fighting bare-fisted."
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    Player bazookatooth's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Singforu View Post
    there is a requirement to do content to obtain something and you are choosing to do the content in the least expedient method. holding onto coins instead of turning them in is inflicting the condition upon yourself.
    No, I didn't do things in the least expedient method. I made enough money to build a relic in a few days of selling skirmish items (I actually already had enough money to build a couple, but that's besides the point). That was by far more "Expedient" than farming dynamis for coins. There is no requirement to actually "do content". Never has been. You can just buy all the items and turn them in. I built my first relic by selling sky / limbus / sea drops. Many others before me have funded them in similar ways because there was never a requirement that you farm all the currency your self. Farming dynamis is actually really low down the list of "Expedient" ways to build a relic.

    But all of that is besides the point because there is a thing called cause and effect. SE caused the wait time. Me having to wait a week cannot happen without SE first putting said wait time in the game. Just as you didn't cause the wait by talking about it. You talked about it because SE made it. My waiting and your commenting on it are an effect of SE creating the wait. Without SE first creating the wait time, none of this would happen. Understand how that works? Great! Now here's the cool thing. SE can take it out. Not only that, but they've built an entire web forum specifically for people to request changes just like this. And if they remove the wait time, You can still wait a week to get your weapon if that's what makes you happy. No one will try to stop you. How cool is that?

    Quote Originally Posted by Singforu View Post
    the delay has nothing to do with being beneficial or not, that's just the way things are. who says it has to be beneficial? Relics and Mythics are supposed to be the best weapons in the game and lore wise it doesn't make sense to have them crafted instantly. It should take awhile to make legendary weapons.
    That's all your opinion and that's cool. That's all it is though. Lore wise, none of this stuff existed when the game came out, so lore wise it makes perfect sense for them to change the lore any time they want just like they always have.

    Quote Originally Posted by Singforu View Post
    If two weeks is too long for you then I think you are playing the wrong game.
    If hearing about how two weeks is too long bothers you, you are also playing the wrong game.

    Quote Originally Posted by Zarchery View Post
    You knew the delay was there.
    You decided you didn't care.
    You decided to hoard all your items until the very end so that you would run into the delay.
    I did know. I did care. I didn't hoard. I had the money to build one before I had the need. Your assumptions are all wrong.

    Quote Originally Posted by Zarchery View Post
    Your request sounds like saying "Please remove damage penalty from Monks fighting bare-fisted."
    Your denial sounds like saying "please keep this thing because purple".
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    Last edited by bazookatooth; 03-31-2015 at 08:08 AM.

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    Your denial sounds like saying "please keep this thing because purple".
    It's more that it's not worth the developer's time to change for something few people ever have to deal with, and which is completely avoidable (unless you actually banked enough gil to buy everything you needed in one shot and found people with that much to sell all at once)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alhanelem View Post
    It's more that it's not worth the developer's time to change for something few people ever have to deal with, and which is completely avoidable (unless you actually banked enough gil to buy everything you needed in one shot and found people with that much to sell all at once)
    It's probably a matter of changing a value from say "144" to a "1". I doubt the devs will have to cancel any important work to do that.

    So far no one arguing against this change has even experienced the delay because they don't buy / stockpile currency, so this thread is just a bunch of people arguing against something that has absolutely no effect on them either way. If they changed this during maintenance tonight, no one would even notice besides me and the OP. Yet people are here trying to stop it. It's really rather telling.
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    Player Alhanelem's Avatar
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    It's probably a matter of changing a value from say "144" to a "1". I doubt the devs will have to cancel any important work to do that.
    I guarantee you nothing in this game is that simple. If it were, there are a lot of things that took months/weeks/years that they could have addressed in 2 seconds
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    Quote Originally Posted by bazookatooth View Post

    That's all your opinion and that's cool. That's all it is though. Lore wise, none of this stuff existed when the game came out, so lore wise it makes perfect sense for them to change the lore any time they want just like they always have.
    no. when you create something and you put lore to it, it doesn't just go away. Legendary weapons (on any game, not just this one) should not be made instantly. Anyone who argues otherwise is just an instant gratification person.



    Quote Originally Posted by bazookatooth View Post
    If hearing about how two weeks is too long bothers you, you are also playing the wrong game.
    I never said nor implied that hearing how two weeks is too long would bother me. You made an argument, I countered it as your argument makes no sense. I then went on to say that if two weeks is too long for you that you are playing the wrong game as this game isn't designed to be played for a short term. Doesn't matter if there aren't going to be any major updates after November. One can still play the game. I think I have you pretty much pegged now...you are an instant gratification person.
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    Player bazookatooth's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alhanelem View Post
    I guarantee you nothing in this game is that simple. If it were, there are a lot of things that took months/weeks/years that they could have addressed in 2 seconds
    That's pretty vague. You could apply that logic to just about anything that you don't want changed. It's not necessarily true though. Just a theory. Personally, I've done a fair amount of coding though and if it didn't work the way I described, I'd be really surprised. I mean it's possible, but incredibly unlikely. The only thing that MIGHT be difficult is finding the spot where the timer is at in the code.
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    Player bazookatooth's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Singforu View Post
    no. when you create something and you put lore to it, it doesn't just go away. Legendary weapons (on any game, not just this one) should not be made instantly. Anyone who argues otherwise is just an instant gratification person.
    They aren't made instantly. You have to earn the currency and then do a bunch of other quests to upgrade them.

    Quote Originally Posted by Singforu View Post
    I never said nor implied that hearing how two weeks is too long would bother me. You made an argument, I countered it as your argument makes no sense. I then went on to say that if two weeks is too long for you that you are playing the wrong game as this game isn't designed to be played for a short term. Doesn't matter if there aren't going to be any major updates after November. One can still play the game. I think I have you pretty much pegged now...you are an instant gratification person.
    The outcome doesn't affect you either way. It only affects me. You said it your self. You don't earn the currency fast enough to be affected by the delay.

    Let's be clear here. You aren't arguing that people should have to work harder or be better players. You are arguing that people should just sit and wait. Otherwise they are bad people somehow. Why are we even writing this on the internet? We should be writing letters to each other or sending smoke signals (we should be communicating in the slowest way possible right?). Or just waiting. Instant gratification people... sheesh.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bazookatooth View Post
    They aren't made instantly. You have to earn the currency and then do a bunch of other quests to upgrade them.
    you're advocating for them to be made instantly.

    Quote Originally Posted by bazookatooth View Post
    The outcome doesn't affect you either way. It only affects me. You said it your self. You don't earn the currency fast enough to be affected by the delay.

    Let's be clear here. You aren't arguing that people should have to work harder or be better players. You are arguing that people should just sit and wait. Otherwise they are bad people somehow. Why are we even writing this on the internet? We should be writing letters to each other or sending smoke signals (we should be communicating in the slowest way possible right?). Or just waiting. Instant gratification people... sheesh.
    yes you should wait. great works take time to make. so wait like a good boy over in your corner.
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    I'd rather see the devs change other things then this with their limited time and resources. 2 weeks is nothing and i fully agree with Alhanelem and Singforu... Maybe we should get rid of all the waiting times in game (sarcasm). There are far more important things which need to be adressed then this.
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