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    Player Aeromehl's Avatar
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    Hagenige
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    Ragnarok
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    In the end, it really doesn't matter. SE stopped caring about this game a long time ago. All they want is money, and they get that by constantly changing which jobs people need to play and gear. "oh a new set of gear comes out completely replacing EVERYTHING i've done up until now". or "Let's give them weapon skill buffs so they'll level/gear another job... THEN TAKE IT AWAY" S.E.: "yes, we have them for another month at least mwuahahahaha". I use to love this game. Now I simply play it out of boredom. Please read this SE and understand, WE DO NOT WANT OTHER-JOB-BUFF-DEPENDENT weapon skills. Understand that? Got it?
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    Player Zeargi's Avatar
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    While I'm sure many people that don't play THF will be happy if they do change those WS, but I for one will not be. People CAN get TP beforehand for things. Maybe not 100% of the time, but Meditate is open to ANYONE that subs SAM and The Icarus Wing is still an item in the game. THF requires specific placement, someone moves (Either Mob or another player) then those lovely numbers disappear quite quickly. Not to mention THF is a glass cannon, one major hit like that and if it isn't dead THF is going to die themselves, because capped evasion+ means nothing in the end-game. This spell isn't going to help anyone, it's just going to pigeon hole more people. As it already stands, A vast majority of people are so afraid to do things without a BRD, now they're going to have to have a BRD AND a RDM? This game has become so Cookie Cutter Strategy wise, that is disgusting... Rather than bring down something that will also hurt DNC, whom I rarely see now... Why not bring the others up to meet them. Where are BSTs? Yes, this SC helped them, but still not invited! Where are the SMNs? Why is that they have to sacrifice so much to even get close to the numbers that others do? Where are WARs? They're the weapons specialist! Why have they been so neglected? DRG, DRK, and PUP? There are more than just 6 jobs in this game....
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    Player evanwimbish's Avatar
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    Evanleewimbish
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    BLU Lv 99
    Even though rdm is one of my main, this is a very stupid update because it's going to limit my bards damage with rudras. Why not just increase the potency of other ws or add new weaponskills which take place. Why does SE quickly tAke good things away. (Embrava, 1spell blu job traits ect)


    Why would you give ardor to a job which rarely is played in main party and expect everyone to use it?

    Redmages are usually used x1 in an alliance IF so... Why not give ardor to bard (since all it really does is schertzo/march) or corsairs or even white mage or scholar! Having to put a redmage in the party and ardor the melee is only going to stress out a redmage because of the many other enfeebs or enhancements it has to cast.

    SE is probably going to make this a 3 min spell , party (not alliance) (which probably won't accession )spell which in worse case scenario will need 2-3 rdm per alliance, and even if the spell is worth while it still won't make up for the 3 other jobs which are heavily played in alliances damage being nerfed


    If it HAS to be nerfed, don't cut it down so drastically such with other content, try by 30% , I agree that 80k rudras were a bit high - however it's not like EVERYONE was exploiting the 80k Dmg. And the effort to S/T rudras wasn't always guaranteed anyways if the target moved or if ur soloing ect.

    I think SE is probably concerned with dancers empy head effecting the march update! Which I was kinda looking forward to
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    Quote Originally Posted by evanwimbish View Post
    Why would you give ardor to a job which rarely is played in main party and expect everyone to use it?

    Redmages are usually used x1 in an alliance IF so... Why not give ardor to bard (since all it really does is schertzo/march) or corsairs or even white mage or scholar! Having to put a redmage in the party and ardor the melee is only going to stress out a redmage because of the many other enfeebs or enhancements it has to cast.(
    Ardor is not a party only spell, rdm will not have to be in the main party.
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    Player Lyandra's Avatar
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    Lyandra
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    Phoenix
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    Quote Originally Posted by Protey View Post
    Ardor is not a party only spell, rdm will not have to be in the main party.
    Actually that may not be the case, according to S-E's post regarding Ardor:

    Quote Originally Posted by Gildrein
    • Ardor (RDM Lv.64, affects a single ally)
    The wording of "ally" indicates it can't be cast on just anyone, such as any player outside of your party, just like Erase. And with that being the case, it also can't be cast across alliances, just like Erase. That said, it's pretty much guaranteed it will be within your own party only.

    (Unless it has some weird job-specific mechanics like SCH and Regen spells, then it could be cast across alliances. But it's just speculation at this point - until the spell is released, there's no way to state for fact it is or is not party-exclusive.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lyandra View Post
    Actually that may not be the case, according to S-E's post regarding Ardor:



    The wording of "ally" indicates it can't be cast on just anyone, such as any player outside of your party, just like Erase. And with that being the case, it also can't be cast across alliances, just like Erase. That said, it's pretty much guaranteed it will be within your own party only.

    (Unless it has some weird job-specific mechanics like SCH and Regen spells, then it could be cast across alliances. But it's just speculation at this point - until the spell is released, there's no way to state for fact it is or is not party-exclusive.)
    when it is party only they say "party member".
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    Player dasva's Avatar
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    Dasva
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    Shiva
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    SAM Lv 99
    Recognizes thf and sam are OP... nerfs daggers buffs sam. Not sure if trolling or it's aht urghan era sam love all over again. Whelp time to get onto the several other jobs capable of doing ws that are just as high or higher that are completely ignored and back to using thf just for th (ie almost never)
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    Ferocity
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    Siren
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    PLD Lv 99
    Fun while it lasted..
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    Player V-1000's Avatar
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    Svetlana
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    Lakshmi
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    SCH Lv 99
    This is totally messed up, Rudra is the only ws DNC has that even decent, i don't own a mythic nor will il be able anytime soon Pyrrhic is useless Exen is even worse, and now because of a few people complaining about their dd jobs not being able to spike dmg like we can SE will destroy not only THF but DNC and by extension BRD in the process. this is so not fair!!!! other dd jobs have been on top for years and no one cared but the second DNC & THF start to shine, a few envious people who cant share the top spot start complaining and SE decides to destroy the only few good ws a THF has? for DNC Rudra's is the only good WS if you don't own a mythic…. am i suppose to go back to Evisceration which is mediocre at best?? thats messed up! now in order to even do normal good dmg i will need to attach myself a RDM to my side in order to be consider for content again <-- BEYOND FURIOUS THIS IS BS
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    Last edited by V-1000; 03-14-2015 at 12:23 AM.

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    Player Bigrob33's Avatar
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    Novabane
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    Valefor
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    SAM Lv 99
    Shouldn't we wait to see exactly what the adjustment is before pulling out the torches and pitchforks? I know SE at times seems to overreact and nerf stuff into oblivion, but I'd wait a bit longer until they post some actual details. Just my thoughts.
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