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    Quote Originally Posted by Ulth View Post
    Yeah, and I was giving information to refute his. Black mages' attribute for spells is INT, but that doesn't make all their elemental spells ice based. Also I like the information in the link

    "The exact impact of Light Staff/Iridal Staff or Apollo's Staff/Chatoyant Staff on Charm is unknown, but they are believed to increase Charm rate by 10% and 15% respectively."

    Words like unknown and believed make a strong case for charm being light based.

    I'm not trying to dispute that CHR is associated with light. And as I pointed out from the bgwiki people don't actually have proof that light staff does anything for charm.
    This is actually interesting. I have a suspicion that the table was just filled in based on what people most commonly think the element for charm is. It seems like a good way to determine what element charm actually is though. A person would just have to keep failing until he does ask about charm then answer to see if they get it right.
    By the exact impact they mean how much does it increase. The fact that it does increase is highly documented even if you don't count the countless testimonials of bsts from back in the day but testing of exact rates not as much. Iirc over on allahkazam there was testing using gauge since that gives an accurate magic hit rate (though it is a range) which was used to determine a few things about macc of charm. On top of that any Run who tanks anything with charm can tell you what a difference Tenebrae pflug will make. The difference is stark enough where there is no way it's eyeballing error
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    Last edited by dasva; 02-13-2015 at 11:02 AM.