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[Ulth]

That info about charm being water was added randomly on January 7th, 2014.

http://www.bg-wiki.com/bg/Charm



No, Repose is light. He was just giving some supporting information to back it up why it makes sense.

Yeah, and I was giving information to refute his. Black mages' attribute for spells is INT, but that doesn't make all their elemental spells ice based. Also I like the information in the link

"The exact impact of Light Staff/Iridal Staff or Apollo's Staff/Chatoyant Staff on Charm is unknown, but they are believed to increase Charm rate by 10% and 15% respectively."

Words like unknown and believed make a strong case for charm being light based.

Charm is definitely light-based.

A lot of those CHR items are named after things associated with light (positivity); Angels, Heavens, Moon, Hope.

Light staff, used by BSTs to charm mobs, is CHARM+10% while equipped during charm /ja.

Lightsday was always the best day to try and charm higher level pets.

Darksday was always notorious among BSTs, for being the day you would mis-charm almost continuously and die. Many BST would actually stop exping and simply just log-out on Darksday, and come back later on another day when the pets didn't try to rip your head off lol.

On a logic level, Charm = Love, you make the monster or person love you so it becomes your pet.

Love = Light, and Hate = Dark.

I'm not trying to dispute that CHR is associated with light. And as I pointed out from the bgwiki people don't actually have proof that light staff does anything for charm. For all you know trying to charm on darksday and failing is just confirmation biases.

As for your logic, charm does not equal love. If you are charmed by something you don't actually love it, you just think you love it. Typically this is done by things that are youthful and beautiful, and personally I associate youth and beauty with water. The fountain of youth for example.

As for more logic as to why charm might be water based a lot of the mobs that use charm moves are water monsters like Lamiae, Poroggo, and Orobon.

With items there are two that give resist charm and have elemental resistance on them. One is the Wuji Ring, it gives resist charm and resist light, however it also gives resist dark and resist sleep. By my best guess the resisting light and dark has more to do with resisting sleep. The other item is M. No.17's Locket which gives resist charm and resist water.

http://wiki.ffxiclopedia.org/wiki/Le...Lost_and_Found

The RUN AF quest also show the break down of status Ailment to answer the question.

This is actually interesting. I have a suspicion that the table was just filled in based on what people most commonly think the element for charm is. It seems like a good way to determine what element charm actually is though. A person would just have to keep failing until he does ask about charm then answer to see if they get it right.