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  1. #11
    Player detlef's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zarchery View Post
    But even after Abyssea, people complain that XP is too slow. When the first double XP campaigns came up, people asked that to be permanent and complained that it didn't apply to Abyssea.

    I mean I'm not opposed to this idea, but I think it's a lot like storage space expansions; it'll NEVER satisfy everyone.
    I don't remember much of an outcry for double XP to be permanent. It's nice when you want to go 0-45 merits in 30 minutes but most people don't really have a beef with the current rates. Maybe you're talking about XP from level 1 to 99?
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    Do you guys thing se will even think of making this perm?

    btw i like what i am reading we need to keep this post alive so the chance se can see it will go up.

    also to the people who said others do not want to grind all day they are right. I have found when in a 6 man it is great points but it works out well even when you are in an ally and chain like merits used to be even if you were in 6 man. So again i am going to say it i do not understand why se dose not just make this perm.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Malithar View Post
    Considering there's a single person advocating that, that's a pretty silly comeback. What Zarchery says is accurate though. We've had months of 2x CP campaigns at this point. We now have AHable 25-30% CP backs. You even get more CP through Gifts as you spend more on the job. Yet there's multiple people on these very boards that complain about JPs difficulty, and when they mention what they have.. "oh, I've got 20ish across all of my jobs." That's not "it's not good enough" that's "I don't want to bother."
    Has it really been months? I thought it all told was around 6-8 weeks worth spread out over since it came out. Should just make it full time especially if the campaigns are such a big part of the argument of why the rates are fine
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    Quote Originally Posted by Malithar View Post
    Considering there's a single person advocating that, that's a pretty silly comeback. What Zarchery says is accurate though. We've had months of 2x CP campaigns at this point. We now have AHable 25-30% CP backs. You even get more CP through Gifts as you spend more on the job. Yet there's multiple people on these very boards that complain about JPs difficulty, and when they mention what they have.. "oh, I've got 20ish across all of my jobs." That's not "it's not good enough" that's "I don't want to bother."
    I never argued it wasn't true, I just said it wasn't helpful, he's also not the only one arguing for such a thing, but my entire point was that such people are in the minority, and therefore shouldn't be the ones the decision is made around. The same would be true of people who are asking for say, 50x rates, they also exist, but also would be in the minority, you balance rates around the majority, and the majority would like it higher than it is now.
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  5. #15
    Player Alhanelem's Avatar
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    But even after Abyssea, people complain that XP is too slow.
    If you're complaining that EXP is too slow you either 1) shouldn't be playing any MMO because it's not any slower than most if you do it the fastest way possible, or 2) are a veteran that has already leveled up a dozen or more jobs the old fashioned way and only are leveling a job because your group needs it.

    EXP isn't too slow, people are just whiny. CAP are pretty slow, but the current rate with the double campaign is not terrible.
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    Player Kawar's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alhanelem View Post
    If you're complaining that EXP is too slow you either 1) shouldn't be playing any MMO because it's not any slower than most if you do it the fastest way possible, or 2) are a veteran that has already leveled up a dozen or more jobs the old fashioned way and only are leveling a job because your group needs it.

    EXP isn't too slow, people are just whiny. CAP are pretty slow, but the current rate with the double campaign is not terrible.
    Do people really say exping is to slow now. It is not in any way you go in to woh gates for example you get a merit in 10 fights with trusts.

    but I am a vet my self and i have been told i am one of the best plds on my server but i know some plds who chould make dinner out of me so i do not know about the statment but i like hearing it.

    back to the topic yes the CAP as it is are fine and it works better for example in 1 hour last night i got 4 Job points and it was very smooth. even if i was to use an ally it would go great if i chain but at the lower rate. I think that it was to slow and felt slow, Am i the only one who thinks this?
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  7. #17
    Player Alhanelem's Avatar
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    It was more about EXP while leveling up, not meriting; but it shouldnt even take you 10 fights, there are mobs you can fight that easily give well over 1k. can do it in 6-8 kills.
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