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    Player Kawar's Avatar
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    Feedback on the Double Capacity Point Campaign

    SE I need to say this. I have spent a good chunk of time in this campaign getting job points to make my class better not even getting ready for the newb gifts. But The rate they are at now the pay out of Capacity Point is at a much better place then it was before the Campaign I was wondering why not keep the pay out of Capacity Points the way they are right now all togather.

    btw i am sorry i know this may be in the wrong place but i did not know where to post it.
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    Player Alhanelem's Avatar
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    pay out? this isn't a casino... I know what you mean though and pretty much everyone says the doubled rate is really just right and they should keep it that way. heck, we've on one as much as we're off one...
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    People like the rate now because it is better in comparison to what is normal. Everyone likes a bonus. But if this were permanent, it would become the new normal and people would quickly become dissatisfied by it as well. Even if capacity points gained at double, triple, quadruple, or even octuple their current base rate, it would still take some measure of time to cap them, and that's too much for some people.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zarchery View Post
    People like the rate now because it is better in comparison to what is normal. Everyone likes a bonus. But if this were permanent, it would become the new normal and people would quickly become dissatisfied by it as well. Even if capacity points gained at double, triple, quadruple, or even octuple their current base rate, it would still take some measure of time to cap them, and that's too much for some people.
    And even if capacity points were gained at half, one third, or even one one eighth their current rate, that would be too fast for some people, neither of these facts are particularly helpful, the only thing you can base a rate around is what makes sense for most people, and most people want an increased rate.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Selindrile View Post
    And even if capacity points were gained at half, one third, or even one one eighth their current rate, that would be too fast for some people, neither of these facts are particularly helpful, the only thing you can base a rate around is what makes sense for most people, and most people want an increased rate.
    Considering there's a single person advocating that, that's a pretty silly comeback. What Zarchery says is accurate though. We've had months of 2x CP campaigns at this point. We now have AHable 25-30% CP backs. You even get more CP through Gifts as you spend more on the job. Yet there's multiple people on these very boards that complain about JPs difficulty, and when they mention what they have.. "oh, I've got 20ish across all of my jobs." That's not "it's not good enough" that's "I don't want to bother."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Malithar View Post
    Considering there's a single person advocating that, that's a pretty silly comeback. What Zarchery says is accurate though. We've had months of 2x CP campaigns at this point. We now have AHable 25-30% CP backs. You even get more CP through Gifts as you spend more on the job. Yet there's multiple people on these very boards that complain about JPs difficulty, and when they mention what they have.. "oh, I've got 20ish across all of my jobs." That's not "it's not good enough" that's "I don't want to bother."
    Has it really been months? I thought it all told was around 6-8 weeks worth spread out over since it came out. Should just make it full time especially if the campaigns are such a big part of the argument of why the rates are fine
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    Quote Originally Posted by Malithar View Post
    Considering there's a single person advocating that, that's a pretty silly comeback. What Zarchery says is accurate though. We've had months of 2x CP campaigns at this point. We now have AHable 25-30% CP backs. You even get more CP through Gifts as you spend more on the job. Yet there's multiple people on these very boards that complain about JPs difficulty, and when they mention what they have.. "oh, I've got 20ish across all of my jobs." That's not "it's not good enough" that's "I don't want to bother."
    I never argued it wasn't true, I just said it wasn't helpful, he's also not the only one arguing for such a thing, but my entire point was that such people are in the minority, and therefore shouldn't be the ones the decision is made around. The same would be true of people who are asking for say, 50x rates, they also exist, but also would be in the minority, you balance rates around the majority, and the majority would like it higher than it is now.
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    Player Alhanelem's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zarchery View Post
    People like the rate now because it is better in comparison to what is normal. Everyone likes a bonus. But if this were permanent, it would become the new normal and people would quickly become dissatisfied by it as well. Even if capacity points gained at double, triple, quadruple, or even octuple their current base rate, it would still take some measure of time to cap them, and that's too much for some people.
    i dont think so. I don't think people honestly want a million job points instantly served to them on a silver platter- they want to play the game, they just don't want to feel like they MUST play it all day long and do nothing but grind that entire time. The double rate feels like what merit points used to be years ago.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alhanelem View Post
    i dont think so. I don't think people honestly want a million job points instantly served to them on a silver platter- they want to play the game, they just don't want to feel like they MUST play it all day long and do nothing but grind that entire time. The double rate feels like what merit points used to be years ago.
    But even after Abyssea, people complain that XP is too slow. When the first double XP campaigns came up, people asked that to be permanent and complained that it didn't apply to Abyssea.

    I mean I'm not opposed to this idea, but I think it's a lot like storage space expansions; it'll NEVER satisfy everyone.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zarchery View Post
    But even after Abyssea, people complain that XP is too slow. When the first double XP campaigns came up, people asked that to be permanent and complained that it didn't apply to Abyssea.

    I mean I'm not opposed to this idea, but I think it's a lot like storage space expansions; it'll NEVER satisfy everyone.
    I don't remember much of an outcry for double XP to be permanent. It's nice when you want to go 0-45 merits in 30 minutes but most people don't really have a beef with the current rates. Maybe you're talking about XP from level 1 to 99?
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