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    Quote Originally Posted by dasva View Post
    Macc is always a factor on any magical effect that isn't 100%. They are just going to make it like every other magic spell where skill adds to macc. macc is a term that has a lot of things like skill and the macc stat and sometimes base stats in it
    I hope you're right! This will be a real boon then.

    Speaking as a BST I am pleased by the slashing of timers and the adding of skillchain properties. I just hope that they get good skillchain properties, and that they really boost the damage aside from skillchaining, since it's just sad right now. My pet special ability should hit harder than a BRD's weaponskill.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Olor View Post
    I hope you're right! This will be a real boon then.

    Speaking as a BST I am pleased by the slashing of timers and the adding of skillchain properties. I just hope that they get good skillchain properties, and that they really boost the damage aside from skillchaining, since it's just sad right now. My pet special ability should hit harder than a BRD's weaponskill.
    Yeah, the Ready timer reduction is a much-needed change, given that BST is actually getting a fair number of ways to increase pet attack speed now so the 1-minute cooldown is starting to be a real limitation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Olor View Post
    Speaking as a BST I am pleased by the slashing of timers and the adding of skillchain properties. I just hope that they get good skillchain properties, and that they really boost the damage aside from skillchaining, since it's just sad right now. My pet special ability should hit harder than a BRD's weaponskill.
    I'd be fine with just the reduction + good lvl 2 skillchain properties. Anyways part of the reason between say that brd and your pet is the brd is getting tons of +att buffs against mobs with tons of def down (well and pet pdif scales weirdly at higher ends it's really nice but takes a much bigger cratio to get there well so little pet att buffs and no one who pts with a bst stacks the amount of def down you see with those brds dealing awesome rudras) and well they balance around the master fighting too with little ways to boost dmg... actually pet tp bonus might be good now unless staying in that gear till your pet uses move lowers the master dps too much. Actually given how much reduction they are giving us we might become like pup with constant ja use so they should probably consider removing the ja delay from ready like they did maneuvers. I mean between ready up to 2-3 times a minute, snarling every 30 seconds and reward now and then it's gunna really eat into our time

    Quote Originally Posted by scaevola View Post
    Yeah, the Ready timer reduction is a much-needed change, given that BST is actually getting a fair number of ways to increase pet attack speed now so the 1-minute cooldown is starting to be a real limitation.
    Well right now tp gain compared to timers wasn't really important since tp had so little to no effect and you can now use them without having to wait on tp (being able to use ready without tp was a real boon especially now with the timer reduction). But now that they are making tp matter this reduced timer is going to be interesting since the pet often wont have much lol. Though when they raise jps to 30 bst jugs are gunna be beastly with their attack speeds
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    Quote Originally Posted by Olor View Post
    I hope you're right! This will be a real boon then.

    Speaking as a BST I am pleased by the slashing of timers and the adding of skillchain properties. I just hope that they get good skillchain properties, and that they really boost the damage aside from skillchaining, since it's just sad right now. My pet special ability should hit harder than a BRD's weaponskill.
    a pet should not be able to do more than a main character.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Singforu View Post
    a pet should not be able to do more than a main character.
    A brd is not a damage dealer. Damage dealers should be able to deal more damage than buffers, and sorry to break it to you but SMN pets can already drop WSes that deal more damage than BRD WSkills.

    It's about roles. BRD has a role, and gets invited for it. BSTs need to perform their role in order to get invites. If it's okay for SAM to deal more damage than BRD it's okay for BST to do the same. Since pets are mostly unbuffable and restricted by timers, they need to drop heavy WS in order to give BST the DD capabilities needed to be a damage dealer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Olor View Post
    A brd is not a damage dealer. Damage dealers should be able to deal more damage than buffers, and sorry to break it to you but SMN pets can already drop WSes that deal more damage than BRD WSkills
    a BRD can be a damage dealer if they so choose. And a very potent one at that. for not only do they have the gear for it, they also have songs to boost their damage. and yes, some people's SMN pets can do more damage with a select few BPs, but their white damage sucks and so it is easy to bypass them. The only time you won't is in a very short duration zerg when SMN can spam BPs every few seconds.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Singforu View Post
    a pet should not be able to do more than a main character.
    What about summoners Protey? Stop hating on bst.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Malthar View Post
    What about summoners Protey? Stop hating on bst.
    she should stop hating on BRD!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Singforu View Post
    she should stop hating on BRD!
    BRD is one of my 3 main jobs. It's the best/one of the best buffers in the game, it doesn't need to be a better DD than BST.

    So yeah, I play BRD, I feel absolutely entitled to comment on it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Olor View Post
    BRD is one of my 3 main jobs. It's the best/one of the best buffers in the game, it doesn't need to be a better DD than BST.

    So yeah, I play BRD, I feel absolutely entitled to comment on it.
    You and Dasva changing what is said around, typical. I said your pet, not BST. Or is your BST so gimp you sit on the sidelines while your pet does all the work?
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