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    Player Olor's Avatar
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    PLEASE REMOVE OR LESSEN RESTRICTIONS ON GARDENING FOR NEW PLAYERS

    Hi, I just rerolled about a month ago and I have to say the restrictions on gardening really suck for new players. Now that RMT seems to be less of a problem I would hope that the developers would look at at least rolling back some of the restrictions on gardening for new players - even setting it up like fishing wouldn't be so bad.

    It is really hard to make gil when you have just started - unlocking gardening would help! I also really want to raise a chocobo but without gardening it is just way too expensive.

    I think that given the state of the game outside of Abyssea the developers should look at taking some action to make things a little easier on new players. Rolling back some of the restrictions on gardening would be a good step.
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    What did SE do exactly?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Camate View Post
    Spending Gil = Game balance, next question please tia
    Quote Originally Posted by Babekeke View Post
    They're reading and agreeing that these are very good ideas.... to be implemented to rune fencer.

    Just like any good suggestions in the RDM thread get applied to SCH.

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    For 90 days plants only yield 1 item from them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Masekase View Post
    For 90 days plants only yield 1 item from them.
    Yeah so you are better off selling the seed/crystal than bothering
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    Quote Originally Posted by Masekase View Post
    For 90 days plants only yield 1 item from them.
    oh wow it is the same thing the send gil cap change did.

    SE he is right, these changes do more harm then good, if someone wants to RMT they will, you should not harm real players in the process.

    That send gil cap needs to be abolished too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Camate View Post
    Spending Gil = Game balance, next question please tia
    Quote Originally Posted by Babekeke View Post
    They're reading and agreeing that these are very good ideas.... to be implemented to rune fencer.

    Just like any good suggestions in the RDM thread get applied to SCH.

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    The thing is I really enjoyed gardening and it was one of the things I was looking forward to when I repurchased the game and started a new character - ditto with chocobo raising. Chocobo raising as far as I am concerned is not viable for a newbie if they can't garden (and don't have some outside source of money). So this 90 day thing is really sucky not just cause it makes it harder for genuine new players to make money/skill cooking/raise chocobos, but it takes away a fun part of the game.
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    There still is RMT, so there will still be some restrictions while accounts are in free trial. I agree that 90 days is a bit much at this point though. At best, they may reduce it to 30 days.

    There are still decent ways to make gil as you are starting out though. Crystals and base mats for crafting are still going at a decent rate, and when they merge the AH you will be able to flip them even faster than you currently can in the starter nations' AH's. You can start crafting things that sell well at 0 craft skill too (tsurara, beeswax, ingots) that you can also craft into usable items yourself--don't discount cooking either, you can start making items for yourself really cheap early on, and some still sell in the AH--there are some beginner's meats, drinks, and jug pets you can make with 0-5 skill and mats are sold by vendors. You can also get a lot of things to use/sell from chests for free too, not just off of mobs. You also get a little chunk of gil from the FOV pages once per game day as well.

    Besides, you really only need a couple sets of gear to get you to Jueno and eventually abyssea now too. With the elevated XP rates and ablility to spam FoV pages, you out-level gear so fast now during the first 30 levels you don't need to upgrade a whole lot--probly do better to use the cheap vendor and <free> CP gear options until you hit 30. You can make one set of gear last easily 7 levels (or more) now with the faster xp rates.

    Also, if you go the CP route, remember you can get some ls mates to upgrade them to higher level gear with just a handful of items like ingots/sheets or pieces of leather/cloth. For example, level 10 Legionaire's Harness upgrades to level 15 Bastokan/Republic Harness by just bonding a brass sheet with an earth crystal (23 goldsmithing). Same thing applies to the weapons: level 10 Legionnaire's Knuckles become level 15 Bastokan/Republic Knuckles by simply applying a bronze ingot on them with a fire crystal (19 goldsmithing). If you don't go the CP rout, use starter gear to ~7, upgrade to better vendor gear, then get lsmates to upgrade them by the same method (Leather gear can easily upgrade to higher level armors, for example: lizard, various scale, brass, studded pieces).
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    Quote Originally Posted by RAIST View Post
    Besides, you really only need a couple sets of gear to get you to Jueno and eventually abyssea now too.
    People who haven't rerolled totally over-estimate the ability of noobs to get into an Abyssea party. Just stating that right off. I am 52 now, and I haven't done anything but unlock the traverser stones accumulating. And, no, if you are soloing post 30, you actually need decent gear unless you want your life to suck.

    You're nuts if you think I only need to get a couple pieces of gear to last till 75+ when I can realistically hope to get a spot in Abyssea for the first time (with no cruor/keys). If hadn't been busting my arse to make money and get gears (and hadn't gotten some gil as a gift from an LS mate) I would be totally screwed. You just can't solo effectively with crap gears.

    I can go without jug pets, I can go without pet food - but I need armor that can take some hits, charisma gear, and decent axes - or I am going to get ridiculously slow exp./eat dirt constantly.

    Your advice is fine otherwise - and believe me, I've farmed up lots of onions and tiger skins and tiger fangs (my personal favourite) and sold lots of crystals and beechips and honey - but newbie gears are really expensive (35 stacks of most crystals for the lvl 25 dagger I just bought for my DNC) compared to the kind of money you can realistically make through most farming.
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    Only people on a free trial should be subject to any kind of restrictions of this sort. Once the free trial is over any restrictions should be lifted. 90 days is just silly. No RMT is going to last 90 days.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alhanelem View Post
    Only people on a free trial should be subject to any kind of restrictions of this sort. Once the free trial is over any restrictions should be lifted. 90 days is just silly. No RMT is going to last 90 days.
    This!

    I understand blocking things while on the trial, but for goodness sake - I'm not on the trial and I even bought all the Abyssea expansions - just let me garden so I can afford to raise my choco!
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