Can we please lessen the unGodly Restrictions for Mythic weapons!?

[Odjima]

Having made a mythic myself, and reading over this thread. I can't help but wonder, when you go to do Assaults, do you take the time to read up on how to clear them before you attempt it?

With limited attempts (1 tag per 24 hours, with a max of 4/5 tags a cycle) you should be aiming to reduce the difficulty of each Assault mission at hand. There's truly only a few that are 'unsoloable', with Lebros Supplies being the only one that is truly impossible alone.

Armed with such knowledge in advance, it shouldn't be hard to know on which Assaults you need to shout for help, and which you can simply go in and clear by yourself. This would largely expedite the process, as well as have you shouting for the ones that often other mythic makers would be stuck on as well, furthering the odds of you receiving assistance for known difficult Assault clears.

Certainly would do a lot more for your time than complaining on the forums I'd think.

[Zeargi]

Having made a mythic myself, and reading over this thread. I can't help but wonder, when you go to do Assaults, do you take the time to read up on how to clear them before you attempt it?

With limited attempts (1 tag per 24 hours, with a max of 4/5 tags a cycle) you should be aiming to reduce the difficulty of each Assault mission at hand. There's truly only a few that are 'unsoloable', with Lebros Supplies being the only one that is truly impossible alone.

Armed with such knowledge in advance, it shouldn't be hard to know on which Assaults you need to shout for help, and which you can simply go in and clear by yourself. This would largely expedite the process, as well as have you shouting for the ones that often other mythic makers would be stuck on as well, furthering the odds of you receiving assistance for known difficult Assault clears.

Certainly would do a lot more for your time than complaining on the forums I'd think.

I do read up on them. The two major ones I failed on were the the Evade and Escape because of the Lamps, and Lebros Supplies because of the NPC speed and time. I failed a few others on my first go, like the Searat Salvation, but that's because I tried escorting all 5 at once and the stupid fish scattered them everywhere. So in instances like this, I try to aim for the bare minimum for the clear. Most time I failed were are on the one that have 15 mins to clear, with the exception of the first 2 i mention. Lebros Supplies had 12 NPC to feed in 30 mins, which should be doable, but each of the NPCs has a slow recognition of input and can't do multiple interacted like other NPCs. So, for instance, when I got help for that one, if one or the other talked to the Food Supplying NPC the other person would be locked out from getting food for a couple of seconds. Where if 2 players were to talk to a store or some other NPC, both could get the interact. But this doesn't just apply to the Food Supplies, it applies to ALL the NPC in the zones. So no two people can rapidly feed a single target, and 5-8 extra seconds to wait adds up real quick when it's just 1 or 2 people, especially when it's all luck as to what food you get.

[Protey]

you should be bringing at least 5 people to lebros supplies. for someone as inexperienced as you, i suggest the full 6. COMMUNICATION is the key to that assault. I suggest splitting up into S, SW, E, N, and NW. That leaves one extra person. He should help out with E or NW. Since if an NPC is full and you talk to it you lose your food anyway, communicate, communicate, communicate. Do so by what type of shield the NPC has that is being fed. Everyone should have movement speed gear + on, and I suggest one person be a BRD for nightingale/troubadour mazurka, and another be a COR for bolter's roll. The crawler's will take off the speed buffs eventually, but you can at least have them at the start. Don't bother wasting everyone's time by trying to coordinate for everyone to gather to put it back on. Just use your movement speed gear and people going as /thf helps too. Can also use powder boots on some jobs. With 6 people all of that isn't necessary, but it helps if someone is retarded and feeds the wrong NPC.

[Zeargi]

you should be bringing at least 5 people to lebros supplies. for someone as inexperienced as you, i suggest the full 6. COMMUNICATION is the key to that assault. I suggest splitting up into S, SW, E, N, and NW. That leaves one extra person. He should help out with E or NW. Since if an NPC is full and you talk to it you lose your food anyway, communicate, communicate, communicate. Do so by what type of shield the NPC has that is being fed. Everyone should have movement speed gear + on, and I suggest one person be a BRD for nightingale/troubadour mazurka, and another be a COR for bolter's roll. The crawler's will take off the speed buffs eventually, but you can at least have them at the start. Don't bother wasting everyone's time by trying to coordinate for everyone to gather to put it back on. Just use your movement speed gear and people going as /thf helps too. Can also use powder boots on some jobs. With 6 people all of that isn't necessary, but it helps if someone is retarded and feeds the wrong NPC.

Thank you, I'll most definitely take this advice when I go back through. I was using Fleet Wind on my SMN for the boost to speed. The 2 of us just barely cleared it, I'm sure there were only seconds left. So, I'm hoping that with 3 maybe 4 should win with little trouble, and hopefully the Nyzul Isle Event will be done and I can snag an extra hand here or there. :3 Also, I'm sorry for the way I talked to you the other day.

[Protey]

Thank you, I'll most definitely take this advice when I go back through. I was using Fleet Wind on my SMN for the boost to speed. The 2 of us just barely cleared it, I'm sure there were only seconds left. So, I'm hoping that with 3 maybe 4 should win with little trouble, and hopefully the Nyzul Isle Event will be done and I can snag an extra hand here or there. :3 Also, I'm sorry for the way I talked to you the other day.

there is no way you cleared lebros supplies with only two people. unless you are cheating.

[dasva]

there is no way you cleared lebros supplies with only two people. unless you are cheating.

I've triboxed it legitly. Granted all my characters had some movement speed, my brd mule had full +duration +song, and it took I believe 3-4 tries but did it. And yeah I know 3 is more than 2 but on the other hand it's a lot more difficult to properly control that many characters separately (basically just had them follow when not talking to npcs and had to slow down to let them catch up a couple of times) so it's comparable to 2 real characters. Probably wasn't possible before they raised the base movement speed

[Zeargi]

You realize they have made it MUCH easier than when these were first introduced? No they don't need to do anything to make them easier. If you don't want a top tier weapon then use a subpar weapon from delve or skirmish. Make a Relic or empy if the quests are too difficult. Aht Urhgan is 7 years old it's your fault for having to do assaults 2x since you should have been captain 7 years ago. I don't understand why you think Dynamis coins and Empy items can be 'bartered and exhanged' so can alex if you find someone willing to trade Alex for coins/dross/cinders/plates. If your expecting the instant rewards like WoW offers then no, go back to WoW and don't try to devalue peoples hard work because it's too much work for you.

And I'd like to add, that 7 years ago, it wasn't nearly as easy to level jobs as quickly as today. Even now SMN is something of a Black Sheep and Rarely gets an invite to things. So, saying that devalues my hard work that I spent to get those jobs raised to be ready for things like this. And I keep saying this, the Alexandrite isn't the problem. That is something I've been farming, and is only a small part (A little annoying). You don't even get to that part until after you've traded the 5 journals to the guy. I never say anything about some instant reward, I said more so that the tag system for the assaults was what needed to be addressed. And I've listed a few of my ideas periodically through this post. My favorite idea, thus far, is still like the level 75 Maat/Paper fight premiss. Allow for me to re-do the assault if I fail. Perhaps pay an extra fee of Imperial Standing to the BLU at each of the staging point. I mean if SE can take away the requirements to have to complete the story of CoP to Reforge equipment, a mulligan for an assault is hardly game breaking. Also, under what impression do you get that I play WoW?

there is no way you cleared lebros supplies with only two people. unless you are cheating.

I Dual Boxed a second character to carry an extra item. But if the other guy hadn't been there to go to the otherside, I'd never have made it. I didn't count the second character in that equation because It's still me.

[InpendingDeath]

And I'd like to add, that 7 years ago, it wasn't nearly as easy to level jobs as quickly as today. Even now SMN is something of a Black Sheep and Rarely gets an invite to things. So, saying that devalues my hard work that I spent to get those jobs raised to be ready for things like this. And I keep saying this, the Alexandrite isn't the problem. That is something I've been farming, and is only a small part (A little annoying). You don't even get to that part until after you've traded the 5 journals to the guy. I never say anything about some instant reward, I said more so that the tag system for the assaults was what needed to be addressed. And I've listed a few of my ideas periodically through this post. My favorite idea, thus far, is still like the level 75 Maat/Paper fight premiss. Allow for me to re-do the assault if I fail. Perhaps pay an extra fee of Imperial Standing to the BLU at each of the staging point. I mean if SE can take away the requirements to have to complete the story of CoP to Reforge equipment, a mulligan for an assault is hardly game breaking. Also, under what impression do you get that I play WoW?



I Dual Boxed a second character to carry an extra item. But if the other guy hadn't been there to go to the otherside, I'd never have made it. I didn't count the second character in that equation because It's still me.

Wanting instant gratification for something others have worked very hard to achieve, it sounds like assaults are too hard for you if so don't do a mythic. No they shouldn't touch the system they have in place they've made it too easy as is.

[Protey]

... And I keep saying this, the Alexandrite isn't the problem. That is something I've been farming, and is only a small part (A little annoying). You don't even get to that part until after you've traded the 5 journals to the guy.

This is incorrect. You can trade in alex as soon as you start the mythic quest - Duties, Tasks, and Deeds; which is the same quest in which you get the 5 journals from the Qiqirn.

I Dual Boxed a second character to carry an extra item. But if the other guy hadn't been there to go to the otherside, I'd never have made it. I didn't count the second character in that equation because It's still me.

that is more reasonable. but even with 3 characters you were lucky. if it had swung the other way where you were getting mainly 1 and 2 point items you would not make it.

[dasva]

Nothing involved in making rems are hard in terms of actually doing the tasks. The time it takes to do them is just highly inflated by time gated events and ridiculously low droprates/supplies of some needed items.

One idea to appeal to both the I want a challenge crowd and the people who literally just don't have the insane amounts of time these require is to introduce high tier version of these fights. Imagine a salvage where you could make 500 a run... but good luck doing it solo in just sparks gear in 20 minutes. Similarly do ilvl VW that have plate droprates higher than 5% etc