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    Player Nebo's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Afania View Post
    If THF can do exactly the same dmg as WAR, I'd just invite a THF instead of WAR to incursion and delve. More airlixir without sacrificing the kill speed, why not.

    You're the one that really don't understand, unless SE disable TH, it's simply not possible to accomplish true job balance. We're still going to pick DDs, in this case we're going to pick a DD that can do top dmg AND give more drops.
    If THF can do similar dmage as WAR, you have the option to invite your friend, that actually enjoys playing a job instead of forcing him to go SAM/WAR/MNK/BRD/WHM or GTFO.

    If its not a DPS crutch, he can come what he likes. You don't actually need a THF for TH and you are overselling the value of Main THF TH here by quite a lot...especially beyond TH2..which every job can get without sub and jobs like RNG can bring with bounty shot. And even if what you are saying here was a valid concern (hint: its not)...you wouldn't stack THFs for drops. You only need one for TH

    The real point is this: If a THF is at lolDPS status, then its not an option. It's not a job. Its 3 pieces of gear. Now your friend CANNOT come THF to this event because TH mules come out.
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    Last edited by Nebo; 12-25-2014 at 03:57 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nebo View Post
    If THF can do similar dmage as WAR, you have the option to invite your friend, that actually enjoys playing a job instead of forcing him to go SAM/WAR/MNK/BRD/WHM or GTFO.

    If its not a DPS crutch, he can come what he likes. You don't actually need a THF for TH and you are overselling the value of Main THF TH here by quite a lot...especially beyond TH2..which every job can get without sub and jobs like RNG can bring with bounty shot. And even what you are saying here was a valid concern...you wouldn;t stack THFs for drops. You only need one for TH

    The real point is this: If a THF is at lolDPS status, then its not an option. It's not a job. Its 3 pieces of gear. Now your friend CANNOT come THF to this event because TH mules come out.
    THF was still a viable DD before this update, and TH is a nice bonus that worth the sacrifice of some DPS. I've used THF in none yorcia delve and I didn't notice a huge difference between a THF and a none SAM DD.

    With this update there are no reason to use a none SAM DD over THF anymore. Even before the update it wasn't a 3 pieces of gear job.


    Quote Originally Posted by Nebo View Post
    If THF can do similar dmage as WAR, you have the option to invite your friend, that actually enjoys playing a job instead of forcing him to go SAM/WAR/MNK/BRD/WHM or GTFO.

    You get it all wrong, if a THF can do same dmg as WAR, anyone with THF and WAR equally geared would have to play THF, unless the target resists piercing or unless that person has personal preference toward 1 specific job. Nothing has changed.

    Further more, according to what Comeatmebro just said, dagger jobs > WAR DRK now. Balance.
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    Last edited by Afania; 12-25-2014 at 12:56 AM.

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    Player Nebo's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Afania View Post
    You get it all wrong, if a THF can do same dmg as WAR, anyone with THF and WAR equally geared would have to play THF, unless the target resists piercing or unless that person has personal preference toward 1 specific job. Nothing has changed.
    You are the one getting it all wrong lol. There is no reason to force anyone to come THF. You don't need a THF at all to get meaningful TH levels. If your group leader doesnt understand how useless high TH levels are, you don't need more than one THF to get THF main level TH.

    This is also glancing over all the events where TH is not relevant...and the only other thing of value a THF can possibly bring is damage.

    I don't understand. Are you saying you only ever bring one DD to events? Or that One hand jobs getting a DPS boost that they desperately needed somehow invalidates 2 Hander DD?
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