Overwhelmed & over complicated?

[Olor]

you'll need to find others to run content with, rather than watching and waiting for someone else to shout for it.

Honestly, you're mostly right but what people who have good groups they run with tend to forget is that if you haven't run the content, it is pretty overwhelming to try and lead a group of strangers, especially if you're not tip top gears. I just, generally, won't do it. If I have friends to do it with and the cost is low, maybe I'd consider it, but most people are hesitant to try things they don't know about - especially now that so much of the content relies on gimmicks and no one is updating wikis really anymore.

Back in abyssea I could look up an NM and get a very solid idea of how to beat it. Now I can't find an explanation of how you're supposed to deal with new Ouryu ANYWHERE.

I've even done a lot of skirmish 3 but since I'm usually on BRD I really don't know what to tell melee about each boss or where to go or anything since I'm usually just paying attention to songs.

I mean I could do a shout group and waste everyone's merits/pop items etc or hope someone else knows how it's done but I think that's a pretty poor way of doing things.

I think that it would definitely help if there was some kind of official resource that explained these new events, maybe not immediately - but after a month maybe? Because right now it's really really hard to find the info since the shrinking fan base isn't keeping up with wikis like they used to.

[Protey]

Honestly, you're mostly right but what people who have good groups they run with tend to forget is that if you haven't run the content, it is pretty overwhelming to try and lead a group of strangers, especially if you're not tip top gears. I just, generally, won't do it. If I have friends to do it with and the cost is low, maybe I'd consider it, but most people are hesitant to try things they don't know about - especially now that so much of the content relies on gimmicks and no one is updating wikis really anymore.

Back in abyssea I could look up an NM and get a very solid idea of how to beat it. Now I can't find an explanation of how you're supposed to deal with new Ouryu ANYWHERE.

I've even done a lot of skirmish 3 but since I'm usually on BRD I really don't know what to tell melee about each boss or where to go or anything since I'm usually just paying attention to songs.

I mean I could do a shout group and waste everyone's merits/pop items etc or hope someone else knows how it's done but I think that's a pretty poor way of doing things.

I think that it would definitely help if there was some kind of official resource that explained these new events, maybe not immediately - but after a month maybe? Because right now it's really really hard to find the info since the shrinking fan base isn't keeping up with wikis like they used to.

make a list of wikis that you think need updating and i will do so over christmas break.

[Olor]

make a list of wikis that you think need updating and i will do so over christmas break.

Wow! That is a very generous offer.

I have to run out to a xmas party now, but I will take a look!

[Vivivivi]

Honestly, this content guide SE made is a great overview/place to start:

http://www.playonline.com/ff11us/contguide/

[Olor]

make a list of wikis that you think need updating and i will do so over christmas break.

So someone pointed out some Delve NMs are missing strategy tips: http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/th...gies-Delve-1-2

Would help to have more detailed for http://www.bg-wiki.com/bg/Mirka for example.

Raz skirmish has very little info. The area is even red linked on BG wiki:
http://www.bg-wiki.com/bg/Outer_Ra%27Kaznar_(U)

There is nothing listing the NMs in Raz skirmish and their tricks nor do I see maps.

Alluvion Skirmish page is not linked to the regular skirmish page, nor is it headlined at the top of the page like other endgame events. I don't know enough about the event (never done it) to comment on whether what info is there is sufficient, though there are large (!) all over the page so I am guessing not. Stuff posted by staff on the O forums is repeated but never explained.

EG:

Eudaemon shield benefits Tank jobs.
Eudaemon blade benefits physical damage dealers.
Eudaemon ring benefits magical damage dealers.
Eudaemon cape benefits Healers.
Eudaemon sash benefits pet jobs.

It's not explained how these items benefit jobs or how it changes the area you go to.

http://www.bg-wiki.com/bg/Alluvion_Skirmish

Most of the hard mode mission battles have no strategies posted whatsoever. I know there is some gimmick around Ouryu and his elementals, for example, but no where is it explained.

http://www.bg-wiki.com/bg/Category:H...n_Battlefields


Like http://www.bg-wiki.com/bg/Kam%27lanaut says nothing about the new battle - whereas http://www.bg-wiki.com/bg/Eald%27narche has tons of info about the mechanics of the hard mode event. So it's really hard to have confidence that just because no new/specific things are listed for Kam'lanaut that they don't exist.

Offhand it appears these could use new/updated/detailed info:

-Kam'lanaut
-Ouryu
-Ark Angel TT
-Ark Angel MR
-Ark Angel HM
-Divine Might
-Head Wind
-Legacy of the Lost (Gessho)
-All the new avatar fights except Shiva

Anyway that's a good start of things that would be especially helpful for players trying to catch up. Unity NMs are there but could also use more info (lots of red links in their descriptions). That stuff is newer though so I can understand it taking awhile to get info on it all.

Thanks so much for taking an interest. I know updating wikis and stuff is a lot of work - which is why I think it would be great if SE started offering more official resources. I think a lot of what is holding back parts of the community right now is access to good info.

[Kimowar]

I just came back myself, I don't feel overwhelmed, just alone on a single player game

[Selindrile]

Kimo it's kinda like that unless you start with friends, until 99 at least.

[Protey]

The Savage II done.
AA MR2 done.
AA GK2 done.
AA HM2 done.
AA EV2 done.
AA TT2 done.
DM2 done.


will update this post when the others are as well.

[vienne]

I agree with OP, the new gear they add every other update is hard to keep track on do's and dont's. Finding a decent ls (that isnt filled by 16 year olds with a sea of free time, or with people with a sea of time who have already beaten the latest content and have no intrest in helping others aside of their clique) is hard. Its hard to find new people to add on your friendlist even. Everyone always seems to be ...afk, geniunly feels like a ghosttown. I've loved this game many years but now i'm on one of my breaks (not sure if ill come back, even deleted the game from my pc (god the reinstall nooooo i dont want to)) but i've seen many people come and even more go, ffxi has a very hard time catering to new or returning people.
Most of the fun content we've had has been made obsolete (or rehashed into something mildly intresting for well geared players) its been replaced by all these generic things like trust (which is fun kinda but just enhances the single player game imo)
sparks gear (its like the lowbudget gear thats to good that anyone can obtain but which is the most boring thing ever to farm and on which the long lasting people spit on, why dont just hand it out for free? (sarcasm alert!))
I just dont have the patience to struggle through all this pre-endgame boring content so i end up quitting and never get there. And yes i tried friends and ls's what not , I cant put my finger on it, but the group and friend feel of this game has withered down to giving me the feeling that i could as well be playing this game with my mother.
Apologies for the what bitter tone.