Relic Excalibur Aftermath

[Malithar]

You seem confused. Amano is all but useless currently. This "past the 250 stage" nonsense isn't something they must do to reach Mythic or Empyerean weapons, it's just a step to Afterglow the weapon, providing a 30 second sphere effect buff to party members after WSing. This doesn't suddenly make it useful, Tsurumaru, the Delve GKT, easily outclasses it currently.

Where you get the idea that sword should equal GKT is beyond me. Many others before you have already complained about the relative weakness of Relic and Empy weapons, and nothing has come of it, nor do I honestly think anything will ever come of it. They want these weapons to remain viable, but not to remain the best. When a more viable option is easily available from a BC, Skirmish, Delve, or whatever other endgame content they decide to add, I really don't see the reason for even going for these. Honestly, beyond Aegis, Gjallahorn, Armageddon, and Yoichi, I really don't know how/why the market stays afloat. Argument can be made for Scythe too, but the others, you're really not going to see the value out of it compared to what you put in.

They may as well come out and say "stop making (most) Relics and Empys, your crys of 'but I put in so much work!' will not work this time."

[dasva]

You seem confused. Amano is all but useless currently. This "past the 250 stage" nonsense isn't something they must do to reach Mythic or Empyerean weapons, it's just a step to Afterglow the weapon, providing a 30 second sphere effect buff to party members after WSing. This doesn't suddenly make it useful, Tsurumaru, the Delve GKT, easily outclasses it currently.

Where you get the idea that sword should equal GKT is beyond me. Many others before you have already complained about the relative weakness of Relic and Empy weapons, and nothing has come of it, nor do I honestly think anything will ever come of it. They want these weapons to remain viable, but not to remain the best. When a more viable option is easily available from a BC, Skirmish, Delve, or whatever other endgame content they decide to add, I really don't see the reason for even going for these. Honestly, beyond Aegis, Gjallahorn, Armageddon, and Yoichi, I really don't know how/why the market stays afloat. Argument can be made for Scythe too, but the others, you're really not going to see the value out of it compared to what you put in.

They may as well come out and say "stop making (most) Relics and Empys, your crys of 'but I put in so much work!' will not work this time."

I do understand the idea of actually making more relics decent and a lot of that stems from highly unequal strengths in ws as well as aftermaths between relics and compared to mythics/empyrean not to mention the really crappy aftermath duration of relics in comparison... that said there is really not much you could do that isn't overpowered to Amano to make it competitive largely due to sams ws split...even back at 75 I believe Hagun beat it. Excal always kinda was not that great either though it would be nice if it's aftermath had at least scaled to like 100 regen!

But yeah given the several other threads of this nature it's clear that SE doesn't care.

Also I think you mean Annihilator instead of Armageddon. Also iirc Rag is still decent for war and Mandau for thf.

[Protey]

You seem confused. Amano is all but useless currently. This "past the 250 stage" nonsense isn't something they must do to reach Mythic or Empyerean weapons, it's just a step to Afterglow the weapon, providing a 30 second sphere effect buff to party members after WSing. This doesn't suddenly make it useful, Tsurumaru, the Delve GKT, easily outclasses it currently.

Where you get the idea that sword should equal GKT is beyond me. Many others before you have already complained about the relative weakness of Relic and Empy weapons, and nothing has come of it, nor do I honestly think anything will ever come of it. They want these weapons to remain viable, but not to remain the best. When a more viable option is easily available from a BC, Skirmish, Delve, or whatever other endgame content they decide to add, I really don't see the reason for even going for these. Honestly, beyond Aegis, Gjallahorn, Armageddon, and Yoichi, I really don't know how/why the market stays afloat. Argument can be made for Scythe too, but the others, you're really not going to see the value out of it compared to what you put in.

They may as well come out and say "stop making (most) Relics and Empys, your crys of 'but I put in so much work!' will not work this time."

I would add annihilator and daurdabla to that list as well. Don't need to take ochain past 90 so not going to add that.