Ok and those mandies are EP so a bit different than the mobs I was fighting. I saw some RDM melee setups on FFXIAH and there does appear to be some decent gear available for RDM- not as good as BLU has but ok. With Natures meditation, and the better gear, and sword skill, a RDM really shouldn't be keeping up with a blu.

I think the reason that poster was sad was because people are reporting 12-24k Rudras where we are lucky to get a 10k CDC under optimal conditions. THF's are doing it without breaking a sweat. I haven't tested my THF yet but I will this weekend.