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    On average it isn't.
    Because people don't try. People don't try to do delve on anything else. Nothing is stopping someone from making their own delve group to go try. But, when someone finally does try, it's with a group of really poor/unskilled/under geared players and then they blame the jobs. Those same people on something like SAM/BRD whatever wouldn't succeed either. You still need to put forth effort.

    Yes, all the jobs can do it. No, it's not because the jobs are bad. There are jobs that are better at it than others, but those are not required to pass the content. Good jobs/geared players finish something like Yorcia Delve in less than 15 minutes, when the time limit is so much more than that. This still doesn't mean you can completely ignore composition though (taking 6 white mages isn't going to work).

    If you want to try Delve, group up with some people (of which, there are many) and go practice the Delve NMs out in the field; that's what they're for. Most of them are very easy to kill with 1-3 people, others will need a bigger group and that's fine, because you will need that for the Delve or can just bead them out. After that, head on in to the fracture. Unlike most content in the game, attempting delve costs little to nothing; there's no penalty for failure, and you still walk out with some plasm/airlixirs. Practicing the NMs will also get the KIs/maybe drops/plasm.

    The original 3 delves are tuned for much lower gear than even sparks gear; you have the stat advantage. Go ahead and try. It doesn't take long and there's no harm. After you get comfortable you can try the harder ones.

    make it something more inclusive than just those lucky few jobs (sch, sam, brd, etc) or those who already have Delve gear.
    People who already have Delve gear farm delve all the time because of plasm. Plasm is great for making money (in addition to the material/airlixir drops) and also needed to get drops from not only that delve, but other delves. The reasoning is there for this already.
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    Last edited by Crevox; 11-29-2014 at 06:24 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crevox View Post
    Because people don't try. People don't try to do delve on anything else. Nothing is stopping someone from making their own delve group to go try. But, when someone finally does try, it's with a group of really poor/unskilled/under geared players and then they blame the jobs. Those same people on something like SAM/BRD whatever wouldn't succeed either. You still need to put forth effort.

    Yes, all the jobs can do it. No, it's not because the jobs are bad. There are jobs that are better at it than others, but those are not required to pass the content. Good jobs/geared players finish something like Yorcia Delve in less than 15 minutes, when the time limit is so much more than that. This still doesn't mean you can completely ignore composition though (taking 6 white mages isn't going to work).

    If you want to try Delve, group up with some people (of which, there are many) and go practice the Delve NMs out in the field; that's what they're for. Most of them are very easy to kill with 1-3 people, others will need a bigger group and that's fine, because you will need that for the Delve or can just bead them out. After that, head on in to the fracture. Unlike most content in the game, attempting delve costs little to nothing; there's no penalty for failure, and you still walk out with some plasm/airlixirs. Practicing the NMs will also get the KIs/maybe drops/plasm.

    The original 3 delves are tuned for much lower gear than even sparks gear; you have the stat advantage. Go ahead and try. It doesn't take long and there's no harm. After you get comfortable you can try the harder ones.



    People who already have Delve gear farm delve all the time because of plasm. Plasm is great for making money (in addition to the material/airlixir drops) and also needed to get drops from not only that delve, but other delves. The reasoning is there for this already.
    I don't see it working been /shouting for ages Foret de Hennetiel WIN Dakuwaqa its job pacific mnk/run x3 WHM BRD PLD or SCH, also those runs are done with a static party rare to see a shout for this.
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    Last edited by Jedicrew; 11-30-2014 at 11:50 PM.

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    You can fight these notorious monsters, aside from the zone bosses, outside of Delve. There should be more liberty in job setups. A lot of the rigidity you see with Delve is because people have their eye on the most difficult monster in the encounter, the boss.

    Sure you don't get the best gear, which only drops off the bosses, but so what? It's not required and you don't have an implicit right to it.
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