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    Player Jerbob's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grekumah View Post
    The plan is to gradually make earning capacity points easier, and we will be adding capacity point bonuses to various content in the future. We’d like to make it so that by going out and doing different types of content you will naturally earn a good amount of capacity points.
    If you guys aren't going to balance jobs properly, you at least need to make capacity points accessible to all jobs at something remotely resembling the same rate. I'm encouraged to hear that you intend for capacity points to be earned through actually doing content, rather than horrifying merit-style slogs, but there are still a significant number of jobs that just don't get proper access to content. Increasing capacity point bonuses is good (though please not on equipment... honestly...), but you're also going to be increasing the amount of capacity points we actually need, so I'm not convinced it will help.

    I am not happy that certain equipment will only be accessible via job points. 50JP is already going to suck to earn as SMN, though it is doable. Naturally there will be more of this JP gear nonsense in the future, though, so what am I looking at here? 100JP for Su2? 500JP for Su5? 1000JP for Su-make-SMN-not-suck?

    Also, I'm still wondering what happened to your statement that job points being light touches for jobs that can be earned at leisure. Making equipment require job points makes them mandatory. That isn't what you promised.

    (General SE-related "you" throughout and not aimed at the wonderful Grekumah, of course.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jerbob View Post
    If you guys aren't going to balance jobs properly, you at least need to make capacity points accessible to all jobs at something remotely resembling the same rate. I'm encouraged to hear that you intend for capacity points to be earned through actually doing content, rather than horrifying merit-style slogs, but there are still a significant number of jobs that just don't get proper access to content. Increasing capacity point bonuses is good (though please not on equipment... honestly...), but you're also going to be increasing the amount of capacity points we actually need, so I'm not convinced it will help.

    I am not happy that certain equipment will only be accessible via job points. 50JP is already going to suck to earn as SMN, though it is doable. Naturally there will be more of this JP gear nonsense in the future, though, so what am I looking at here? 100JP for Su2? 500JP for Su5? 1000JP for Su-make-SMN-not-suck?

    Also, I'm still wondering what happened to your statement that job points being light touches for jobs that can be earned at leisure. Making equipment require job points makes them mandatory. That isn't what you promised.

    (General SE-related "you" throughout and not aimed at the wonderful Grekumah, of course.)
    My LS brings SMN to incursion, which gives a metric ton of CP. So tell your LS to let you bring SMN (assuming you are in a LS). I have seen every job except BST in incursion (though this could go as well). There is no excuse unless your LS leadership are a**holes.

    Your argument that making equipment require job points makes them mandatory is flawed. There is no content in this game that requires said gear.

    I actually like this JP requirement, heaven forbid people actually have to /gasp play a particular job to excellence. Too many people here from aby burn and merit only on one job era.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ulth View Post
    http://www.bg-wiki.com/bg/Additional_Effect

    Someone should update the wiki then. I still have more questions though, like are there associated stats for additional effect magic accuracy, and if so what are they?
    Okay, I updated it with a more current theory:
    http://www.bg-wiki.com/bg/Additional_Effect
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    Quote Originally Posted by Protey View Post
    I actually like this JP requirement, heaven forbid people actually have to /gasp play a particular job to excellence. Too many people here from aby burn and merit only on one job era.
    No in 2011 and 2012 they did that. To me, Abyssea burn implies an actual participatory levelling experience. Now people just beg other people to level them up while they go take a nap or something.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zarchery View Post
    No in 2011 and 2012 they did that. To me, Abyssea burn implies an actual participatory levelling experience. Now people just beg other people to level them up while they go take a nap or something.
    ah, people i normally talk to refer to aby burn as: you are some low level job while some other guy does Fell Cleave. Semantics. It's important to have the same definition of words.
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    And to think all of the Aby problems would've never existed if the level requirement to enter had been made 75 instead.
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    The plan is to gradually make earning capacity points easier, and we will be adding capacity point bonuses to various content in the future. We’d like to make it so that by going out and doing different types of content you will naturally earn a good amount of capacity points.
    That's the best announcement I've heard in a long time!

    It makes me want to light fireworks and dance around for joy, seriously. That's awesome news, thankyou!
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    I think if they just lowered the crazy evasion on the high level mobs in the gates zones, that would go quite far to making Capacity Points parties easier to organize.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Byrth View Post
    Okay, I updated it with a more current theory:
    http://www.bg-wiki.com/bg/Additional_Effect
    Okay so the reason my oxidant bolts works on some nms like Tutewehiwehi, but not on others like Tojil is because of my magic accuracy compared to their magic evasion. So I need to build a magic/ranged accuracy set...
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    I like what they are doing but can we add a %after instead of a flat rate? ie 5% not 5 points
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