Balancing the Ergon Quests

[Malithar]

FYI, if you have mules, you can generate HPB faster since you get more tags.

Derp? That's like saying "FYI, you can get more login points if you have mules." XD

It's worth noting that if you're capable of multiboxing though, Skirmish bayld runs open up another quick avenue for farming. The few times I did it with friends was in Yorcia, buy a 1/1/1 set for everyone, enter, run to an NA, get Bayld, exit, repeat. Made about 30k Bayld every 10 minutes IIRC, per person. Since you bought the sets, have them turn in the 30k bayld for HPBs, and you just made 18 HPBs in 10 minutes for about 25-30k per 3 HPB depending on your server's prices.

[Afania]

Derp? That's like saying "FYI, you can get more login points if you have mules." XD

It's worth noting that if you're capable of multiboxing though, Skirmish bayld runs open up another quick avenue for farming. The few times I did it with friends was in Yorcia, buy a 1/1/1 set for everyone, enter, run to an NA, get Bayld, exit, repeat. Made about 30k Bayld every 10 minutes IIRC, per person. Since you bought the sets, have them turn in the 30k bayld for HPBs, and you just made 18 HPBs in 10 minutes for about 25-30k per 3 HPB depending on your server's prices.

You only need to pay $1 per character if you generate HPB with tags though, skirmish multibox kinda need a lot more monthly fee since those characters can't share the same POL account. I'm not sure how many characters you can have per POL account, if you can get 10 more character per account that's 10x more tags/HPB you can generate with $10 extra sub fee a month.

[Hoshi]

Ideally you have friends and then you don't have to own all 6 accounts. Meanwhile mules will generate you slightly less than 2 H-P Bayld a day from the Kamihr courier quest.

[Camiie]

FYI, if you have mules, you can generate HPB faster since you get more tags.

So, Pay2Win is how you want FFXI to be?

[Lyncath]

FYI, if you have mules, you can generate HPB faster since you get more tags.

High-Purity Bayld cannot be sent to characters on the same account. You'd have to have an intermediary person in your linkshell or something to collect the few you get from your mules and give them all to your main. Also, that is literally paying-to-win.

As it stands the best method bar-none for 'farming' High-Purity Bayld is to have multiple accounts dual/tri/quad boxed at a Lair Reive in Outer Raz' and bot the Reive whenever it spawns. That is not only paying-to-win, that is also blatantly violating the in-game mechanics let alone the terms and conditions of service. This needs resolving.

[Hoshi]

I think the lower cost for WKR and shorter respawn times was a good start. I am very sad to see that campaign end. With that being said out of the 22 WKR I was able to do during the campaign I did not get a single bayld box even though I usually got capped bayld from evaluations.

[Afania]

So, Pay2Win is how you want FFXI to be?

I didn't advocate Pay2Win, I only provided information about how to generate HPB faster.

Tbh, FFXI has been Pay2Win since forever. In Abyssea era ppl created 10+ mules, leeched cruor in a cleave pt and NPC all the cruor for tons of gil. 1 year ago when airlixir +1 cost millions, quite a lot of players with mules also got 2x~3x more gil per delve run because they got plasm on every character. Nowadays some ppl trio box delve and sell delve win, while players without mules had to split profit and make less gil per merc runs.

This game just favors player with multiple characters, even without ergon weapon quests. It's not that I want Pay2Win, this game IS Pay2Win.

[Sapphires]

The event for WKR faster respawn and only 3k for the KI was a really good idea. They should consider making that permanent.

I was able to supply one of my friends 75 to 100 hp bayld ever day from constantly running back and forth between achuka+tchakka killing them for a couple hours.
I don't mind farming hp bayld as a gil making activity when its worth my time but its pretty much last on the list since delve/dynamis/salvage/voidwatch is a better use of people's time.

[Sfchakan]

As someone not even interested in making an Ergon weapon, I thought the campaign buffing WKR was great. It really got people out there doing them together.

[Lyncath]

Just recently finished mine and I can tell you it was no joke. It took me World Transferring across 7 servers to get all the HP Bayld accumulated for the last stage. Even then, there just wasn't enough in existence to complete the last stage. So to validate the OP argument...absolutely, SE needs to address availability of these to balance out how easy it is to farm/buy Alexandrites for traditional Mythics. Currently on Odin, Alex easily goes for 7-8k, whereas good luck finding HPB for anything less than 40k.

I absolutely agree, make Aged Bayld Boxes 100% drop from WKR and HPBs 100% drop from Colonization Rieves. Problem solved. It would still require ppl soloing 1000s of Colony Rieves if they wanted to take that route, so not a walk in the park.

Reading through this thread again that suggestion really seems like the best fix for this problem.

Aged Box [Bayld] should be a 100% or otherwise have a high drop rate around 60~70% from Wildskeeper Reive Naakuals and single pieces of High-Purity Bayld should be a 100% drop from any Lair or Colonisation Reive. If this is done then the requirement should remain at 9999 for the final upgrade stage to maintain a semblence of balance. Say for example 30~40 people take part in a Wildskeeper Reive and 30~35 of those get an Aged Box [Bayld] with an average of 8 inside each one (3~15 is the range). These people just added almost 300 High-Purity Bayld to the circulation.

The incoming "Bayld Campaign" is a nice gesture but all you're doing with it is treating an amputee patient with a band-aid. This does not address the problem that people simply do not want to trade their Bayld in to increase the supply ever-so-slightly because people are uncertain as to whether Bayld will be used for future content. Also, consider that people may well understandably want to conserve their stock in case they feel the need to trade in their Seekers of Adoulin storyline Ring.