The importance of job points

[Camiie]

If that's the case then your opinion isn't the same as Camiie's.

I'm completely on board with him.

What I wanted to say was, those 2 approaches can solve the same problem, but it would lead to very different results. The former approach shortens the game's lifespan, because hardcore would sit in town with nothing to do if JP are too fast to cap.

Some people are always going to consume content faster than the norm. You can't design an integral aspect of character development with them in mind. That ruins the game for everyone who isn't like them. What you do for the rapid consumers is produce prestige items that they can put all their excess game time toward. That gives them something to do without putting something simple like leveling up out of the reach of the common man.

The latter retains the game's life span, hardcore gets the option to spend their time, and casual won't be too far behind them. I'm against the idea of 10k CP per JP, but I don't mind if hardcore has 1% better performance than casuals, as long as they have something to spend their time on if they want to.

And that would be fine, and that's the direction that SE seemed to be going in at the outset. Now they're throwing in more and more bonuses and even access to certain armor and soon spells as well. I'd like to let them know how terrible an idea that is before things get out of hand.

Bwuh? They need to ask the community for better camps then. Just recently I've been shown a camp in the Woh subgates that is quite handy; using two Capacity ring charges (one right as I was logging off to maintain the buff but tick down the cooldown, one after the first wore), on my DRG/RDM I had gotten two JPs in about 50 minutes, give or take.

OK so where exactly is this Woh Gates camp then? The thing with the community is that many of its members are extremely loathe to share their camps with others. You can ask but you'll generally get silence, ridicule, or lectured on how the secret of the camp must be kept to maintain its integrity.

[Kensagaku]

OK so where exactly is this Woh Gates camp then? The thing with the community is that many of its members are extremely loathe to share their camps with others. You can ask but you'll generally get silence, ridicule, or lectured on how the secret of the camp must be kept to maintain its integrity.

People can be dumb like that, but I do understand that crowded camps get annoying. >.> I have to deal with a PLD occasionally Ochain/AE burning all the bats in my spot, and it annoys me, but I just steal some of his mobs; if he's gathering them all up, then he can spare a few. If I had a little more confidence I'd just Sonic Thrust the lot of 'em for killshots... but I'd prolly find myself dead. xD

Anyway, I mentioned it but as it was a little snippet, I'll say it again. If you go to the Woh Gates subzone (by subzone, I refer to the secondary Gates zone that you use a crystal to teleport to rather than walking), and then go to the southwest corner, there is a large room filled with bats that con VT-IT. You'll have to use some acc gear and prolly food (I use pizza myself; long duration, atk/acc), but there's tons of mobs. They don't link, but they do sound aggro, so you have to be careful. Oh, and watch out for the true sight hippogryphs on the way, they're nasty.

As a note, despite the claim that people are so hush-hush with their camps, I found this up on the ffxiah forums. >_> Someone asked for good CP camps for THF, and someone brought up that it was a good piercing camp. So asking on various forums is prolly a good way to go. I know there was one person around here who was like "omg my bat camp" but most people don't seem to get all secretive, from what I've seen.