The importance of job points

[Protey]

It's interesting you got them in ra'kaznar when supposedly Woh Gates should have the highest capacity point gain, I have considered sharpening up my accuracy sets and hitting Woh Gates again as a dual box, currently if I farm jop points, I do it in Dho.

doesn't matter how good your acc set is. you aren't going to have anywhere near a decent hit rate (i consider decent over 90%) duoing in woh gates. well.... maybe if your duo partner is a top notch bard subbing cor (getting lucky or 11 roll), use Kuyin Hathdenna, use riverfin soup, and have some kind of acc+ JA or trait. That might do it, will have to try it out.

[Alhanelem]

The mob is in the screenshot, what more do you want? How lazy could you be?

I know that, I'm just saying, withholding this sort of information because you don't want other people to discover it is rather unsavory. Yes, we can do the math. It just strikes me as very elitist to discover these kinds of things and brag that you know about them while not helping other people do the same.

Word will get out about good camps eventually, you're just doing a disservice to others by trying to hinder it.

[Zarchery]

I know that, I'm just saying, withholding this sort of information because you don't want other people to discover it is rather unsavory. Yes, we can do the math. It just strikes me as very elitist to discover these kinds of things and brag that you know about them while not helping other people do the same.

Word will get out about good camps eventually, you're just doing a disservice to others by trying to hinder it.

The thing is, there are 4 bat camps in Outer Ra'Kaznar, and each can only really accommodate 1 person. If my Ra'Kaznar camp becomes popular, I get crowded out. I'm not really under a moral obligation to share information that harms me.

[Zarchery]

It's interesting you got them in ra'kaznar when supposedly Woh Gates should have the highest capacity point gain, I have considered sharpening up my accuracy sets and hitting Woh Gates again as a dual box, currently if I farm jop points, I do it in Dho.

Woh Gates is better, if you have a group that includes a Bard for double Madrigal. The mobs there are somewhere around level 125 and have crazy evasion. My job point hunting was mostly solo, against fat bats that are roughly level 117.

[Demonjustin]

Is there really a difference between Dho and Woh Gates when it comes to Capacity gain? I never noticed one myself, they seemed exactly the same, so I just always stuck with the Crabs and Pugs in Dho...

[Malithar]

Is there really a difference between Dho and Woh Gates when it comes to Capacity gain? I never noticed one myself, they seemed exactly the same, so I just always stuck with the Crabs and Pugs in Dho...

For solo, it kinda depends on your job/gear and how high you can go. The higher level the mobs, the higher the CP gain, regardless of the level difference or area, except special instances, like Incursion NMs. Exp on the other hand has a base cap of 2450 iirc, and that's hit as low as Dho, if not lower.

For anyone interested in CPs, I highly recommend checking out the new areas of the Gates and Cirdas maps. Extremely fast repops, tons of mobs, and there's a very wide birth of choice when it comes to your targets. All areas AFAIK are 121-123 mobs, with a couple of 124s thrown in. Some are obviously less ideal then others, such as Sih Gates massive Dullahan and Umbril area, but most have a lot of mob choices.

Got this tonight in just 1 hour. Party was 2x Blu War Geo Cor (rolls only) Whm. Was wearing a +50% CP mantle. The final stretch was plagued with a bad roll from the Cor, most kills were in the neighborhood of 1800-1980ish CP, no CP ring for those numbers.



Not going to say CPs don't have their issues, but dedicating an hour to getting 15-20 JPs isn't that bad, IMO. As long as the cost per JP doesn't increase past 10 (ie, the assumed 11, 12.... 30 for final tier cost), and events in the future continue to award decent CPs that it'd work out decently. I think it'd be a fixed system if 2x CP gain became permanent. Get them at an ok pace doing content, solo at a decent pace, or group up and grind them out ala old school meripos to really knock them out quickly.

[Zarchery]

How do you get to those new areas? I went all over Sih, Woh, and Moh Gates and didn't find anything new.

[Malithar]

There's crystal structures in many of SoA's outdoor areas that have been there since launch. These now take you to the 2nd maps. In order to use the ports, you need to have completed the WKR in that zone and acquired the Aged Naakual Crest.

Crystals are at:

Ceizak - G-10 - Sih Gates
Marjami - F-11 - Woh Gates
Yorcia - I-10 - Cirdas Caverns
Foret - H-11 - Dho Gates
Morimar - H-5 - Moh Gates

On the opposite side of the 2nd map is also another crystal structure that will warp you directly into Ra'kaznar Inner Court. Specifically the one in Cirdas is useful for getting to the Ra'kaznar Turris for some of the final missions. Others may be useful someday if Ra'kaznar gets some more uses added to it.

[Dale]

I actually like the Job Point system.

It provides a long-term way to improve your character so I don't get bored and always have something to do. So I'm all for SE adding more features to this system. This is coming from a casual player also. It's nice to actually have a reason to go fight more challenging monsters.

In any case: it's a lot more enjoyable than working on Relic and Empyrean upgrades which are so tedious and boring it makes me contemplate quitting.

The Job Point system is basically just the old merit system anyway - before merits were basically force fed down your throat so fast you choke on them.

[Malthar]

Oh no... Dale's on here too?! He reminds me of Bob in "What About Bob?"