i have no problem holding an NM when a PLD dies. i also swing my sword every time i go to delve as RDM. I do a lot of damage too. Last Wopket I did about 85k (little over 12% of the damage). Obviously it's not going to be anywhere near what the SAM that has SP abilities that are great for zerg damage. But I am not that far off of a mnk or war.