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  1. #11
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    Quote Originally Posted by Randnum View Post
    I apologize, albeit backhandedly.

    I couldn't understand why you would bring up your chest opening rate if you weren't implying that the OP was failing at it.

    I see now that you were using your chest opening rate only as proof that you understand maths and logic, so I definitely misunderstood that, and the chest droprate was just me spouting my initial thought process.

    The fact remains that this can take a very long time. And my argument was that it is 200+ chests IF the droprate is 2%.

    I don't know what the droprate IS. The only data I have from Wiki (notably unreliable) is that it is below 1%.

    When you get below 1% (say .5%) it takes 900+ chests. That inflates your data to nearer to 60 hours again assuming that they DID only get brown caskets every 5 minutes (I don't believe this is the rate, but I don't know what exactly it is, and opening them does take some time).

    A player who plays 3 hours a day purely attempting this could easily take a month if it could take them 900 chests.

    I would rather you who have done it, help us with the data on rate of chest acquisition, while at least accepting and factoring the possibility of say, even 500+ chests required for that unlucky '1 in 100' person.

    How long would they actually take? The data, again from Wiki, says that without Kupowers (which we don't control and shouldn't be argued technically because they would then be waiting until the right one, which, while it isn't 'time spent trying', it is 'time spent not getting what they want', certainly) your odds of Brown caskets with no prowess are 1 in 20 kills. So if the odds are half a percent you are looking at 18,000 kill for that 'unlucky person'.

    I would rather trust your numbers than the wiki.

    If you were that 1 in 100 person, how long would it take you to get and open those 501 chests, assuming no Kupower?
    Only a couple times did I not go after torques when kupowers wasn't present. It's a strategic decision and saves way more time by having kupowers. There are many things to do in this game and as with pretty much any game, doing things at the right time can make a world of difference. The nice thing about caskets is that they can drop from all mobs, even the really low level ones that don't even give exp. So one can just round up massive amounts of mobs and do AoE damage, with kupowers present and level 5 treasure casket discovery you're going to get several brown caskets. Without kupowers on average you get at least one. It also takes less than a minute to open a casket (I average about 30 seconds). This is why I said 5 minutes was a long time.


    as for your last question, it is dependent on what mobs are available (i.e: how much damage is it going to take to kill them). the faster i can kill, the faster i get chests. If say I am rounding up level 40 mobs and it takes me 1 minute to round up 20 mobs and kill them. I get one chest (let's be conservative). 30 seconds to open (on average). Let's add a 30 second buffer. That's 2 minutes per chest. Multiply that by 501. That's 1002 minutes. Now let's assume a 90% open rate. That's 1,114 minutes or about 19 hours. Added onto that time though would be getting level 5 treasure casket discovery, but only partially so as would be getting caskets during this time as well. Let's add 5 hours to make it an even 24 hours.

    Take that though as actual kill time, without interruptions or slacking off. Might also have to factor in competition as well (the one torque that took me 4 days I had lots of people to compete against >.< ).
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    Last edited by Protey; 10-28-2014 at 06:17 AM.

  2. #12
    Player Nelyus's Avatar
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    Nelyus
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    Odin
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    NIN Lv 99

    Caskets

    It is rare I fail to open a chest, I am not alone that have to spend ridiculous time farming rare items.
    Prouesse ring took me 2 weeks,
    Terminus Earring 2 days, then helped a friend get it, took 3 days.
    Liminus earring took me around 6 months of going in & out, not steady farming.
    I helped 2 friends get Fishing torque; first got it after 2-3 caskets, second took 3 months of around 4-8 hours farming each day.
    Problems is all the crap we can get...
    Potions, +1 +2 +3
    Hi potions, +1 +2, ether, +1 +2 & so on!
    there is around 10% chance of getting a brown casket & then there is around 40-60 items.. not to mention the rare item is most probably 1 to 5% drop rate... that means, without luck this can be terribly long to get. Especially not so fun.
    It needs limit on bad luck. Most of rare things in this game needs a limit on how unlucky we can get.
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    Nel.

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