Issues with Tier II battlefields

[Draylo]

Practically every fight has an item that is worthwhile for various jobs. You guys just want Delve level of gear and it won't happen for a while and for good reason.

[Comeatmebro]

Practically every fight has an item that is worthwhile for various jobs. You guys just want Delve level of gear and it won't happen for a while and for good reason.

Almost every BC having one worthwhile drop isn't really a good reward model. Everything doesn't have to be good, but when some BCs have literally nothing worth owning then what's the point even adding them?

Kam'lanaut(4 drops, 2 of which are decent-good for multiple jobs, the other 2 are mostly junk) is a decent balance. Lancelord(5 drops, 1 of which is a marginal macro piece for 2 jobs, 4 of which are complete garbage) isn't. Avatars(6 BCs, 4 of which have 0 good drops, 2 of which have 1 good drop and 4 trash drops) are a complete failure. It doesn't need to drop amazing gear(mes haub is barely better in most of the situations it wins, but it's still an attractive piece for multiple jobs.. likewise for slacks), it just needs to drop something to make it worth doing.

Edit: I'm not saying the reward model is bad, the content is boring, or even that grouping is unreasonable. I'm just saying that most of the BC could do with an improvement to their drop pools. Out of 20 total BCs, only 10 are done for any reason besides chapters.

Useful:
AA Hume
AA Mithra
AA Elvaan
Divine Might
Kam'lanaut
Eald'narch
Tenzen
Ouryu
Shiva
Leviathan

The rest have at most one decent drop, and it's optimal for few-no jobs. This is as much a reason for nobody doing them as difficulty, especially considering how easy shadow lord and avatars are..

[Olor]

You guys just want Delve level of gear and it won't happen for a while and for good reason.

What's the good reason? For most of the rest of FFXI's history best-in-slot gear was spread over a great number of events. Why now make it so most of the best gear only comes from one event, an event that is VERY RESTRICTIVE in terms of what jobs can participate.

I miss abyssea era where there was plenty of really good gear you could get with a couple friends on any job they wanted to come on. This SAM BRD WHM MNK RNG only era is depressing and it's directly tied to the fact that the devs are releasing content with generally crummy rewards, and ALL the content is aimed at the same kind of party set up and job balance has never been worse.

[Draylo]

What's the good reason? For most of the rest of FFXI's history best-in-slot gear was spread over a great number of events. Why now make it so most of the best gear only comes from one event, an event that is VERY RESTRICTIVE in terms of what jobs can participate.

I miss abyssea era where there was plenty of really good gear you could get with a couple friends on any job they wanted to come on. This SAM BRD WHM MNK RNG only era is depressing and it's directly tied to the fact that the devs are releasing content with generally crummy rewards, and ALL the content is aimed at the same kind of party set up and job balance has never been worse.

The reason is so that they don't invalidate all the content they just put out by increasing ilevel? Who would want to do any of these bc's or any delve content for gear if you can just get i120+ from the new content? They wanted to keep some longevity to the content.

I honestly don't remember that in Abyssea unless you were one of those bst that took 3 hours to solo a mob with your invincible pet. Everyone else did it more efficiently by bringing the correct jobs. There was a bandwagon at that time too if you didn't remember, most people wanted to bring NIN WHM MNK THF and BLM barely any other jobs were considered. Most people even soloed everything with mules during that era to keep all the drops to themselves. If you think Delve is restrictive then you are nuts... You can practically destroy any delve zone with any DD job as long as you have a conventional support line.

[Olor]

The reason is so that they don't invalidate all the content they just put out by increasing ilevel? Who would want to do any of these bc's or any delve content for gear if you can just get i120+ from the new content? They wanted to keep some longevity to the content.

I honestly don't remember that in Abyssea unless you were one of those bst that took 3 hours to solo a mob with your invincible pet. Everyone else did it more efficiently by bringing the correct jobs. There was a bandwagon at that time too if you didn't remember, most people wanted to bring NIN WHM MNK THF and BLM barely any other jobs were considered. Most people even soloed everything with mules during that era to keep all the drops to themselves. If you think Delve is restrictive then you are nuts... You can practically destroy any delve zone with any DD job as long as you have a conventional support line.

I would go with my friends and work on getting pop item drops while they did staggers. I often played on BST. Rewards were plentiful enough that it was no biggie having friends along even if they weren't perfect, and BST had strengths in absysea, it was no where near as far behind as it is now. No one is going to want me on BST for delve.

Also I am not calling for the items to be 120, I am calling for the items to be as good as delve items or slightly better in some cases - but at 119. The game used to have good options for almost every slot for almost every job from almost every event. That made it worthwhile to do more than just 1 event.

Why wouldn't you want that? hardcores are all capped out on delve already and casuals never get to do it, so I don't see the point in keeping most of the best in slot in that event.