Issues with Tier II battlefields

[Ulth]

I think the issue is that all drops are kinda "spread out", so your friends/ls member is only interested in specific drops in specific BC.

For example, my ls member asked in /l for AA MR all the time for the mask, but I don't need the mask, so I usually don't reply, since I'm saving merit on other BC.

On the other hand, I need AA EV ring, but whenever I asked my LS to do EV, they're always like "Why do you want to do EV? Let's do MR!" So in the end nobody do EV cuz they're saving their merit on MR.

Note that it's very, very easy to get ls member for delve/incursion runs, but BC is 20 times harder. So there's something clearly wrong with the BC.

Of course you can make a Higher tier BC static or something and do 1 round of event for everyone, but then you'd force ppl to spend merit on BC they don't need, and that dropped the interest cuz ppl nowadays kinda don't trust other ppl like lv 75 era anymore. A lot of ppl just wouldn't want to spend merit on a BC for lsmember/friends's item.

IMO, the entrance KI shouldn't be merit to begin with, it can be a pop KI that needs gil or time to farm, whoever want the BC item sponsor the pop, so other helpers just spend time instead of their precious merit.

Or maybe reward the helper a lot more than just paper, most ppl are capped with AF 119 so it's not an incentive anymore.

I don't mind the KI's taking merits. When Job Points came out I grinded them like crazy and capped out everything merit wise so now the only thing I can use merits for are these fights. So the fights still give merits a purpose because eventually every will run out of something they can merit. However I think everyone is in agreement. The fights should only require one person's KI.

[Afania]

I don't mind the KI's taking merits. When Job Points came out I grinded them like crazy and capped out everything merit wise so now the only thing I can use merits for are these fights. So the fights still give merits a purpose because eventually every will run out of something they can merit. However I think everyone is in agreement. The fights should only require one person's KI.

I don't think it's good to lower entrance requirement though, or else ppl would spam it more often. They should allow players to sponsor KI for helpers by spending more merits though. So say if entering 1 BC needs 15 merit, it's probably better if one person can trade 15 merit for some kind of pop item and trade it to the helpers. It'd be a lot easier to get ppl to help if they don't need to spend any merit to enter the BC.

[Ulth]

I don't think it's good to lower entrance requirement though, or else ppl would spam it more often. They should allow players to sponsor KI for helpers by spending more merits though. So say if entering 1 BC needs 15 merit, it's probably better if one person can trade 15 merit for some kind of pop item and trade it to the helpers. It'd be a lot easier to get ppl to help if they don't need to spend any merit to enter the BC.

I'm either not understanding what you are saying or it just doesn't make any sense. It almost sounds like you just want to be able to pay the merits for the other people. That means if you wanted to do an elvaan and paid for it all, you would need 90 merits. You can only hold 45 merits at a time so you would have to get 45 merits, get the items, then have those items waste your inventory space while you get the rest of the merits. After that you have to hold onto all the items while you gather people together, and if you lose or the item you are after doesn't drop your still down 90 merits. Even worst is the other scenario where everyone wants to do mithra but you. Five people want to go, so which of the five is going to have to sponsor you? What's stopping them from just getting a sixth who will pay for themselves?

Could you imagine how less popular delve and incursion would be if everyone needed to get a KI every time for people to enter? Sure right now the price of rocks are low, but if the demand increased 6 fold the prices would shoot up with it. And so what if people spam merit fights. Everyone pretty much already have the chapters they need. The only thing of value that would change is the synthesis material, and they aren't even worth that much on my server already. If anything it would be good if those prices went down, then more people could skill up their crafting.

[Afania]

I'm either not understanding what you are saying or it just doesn't make any sense. It almost sounds like you just want to be able to pay the merits for the other people. That means if you wanted to do an elvaan and paid for it all, you would need 90 merits. You can only hold 45 merits at a time so you would have to get 45 merits, get the items, then have those items waste your inventory space while you get the rest of the merits. After that you have to hold onto all the items while you gather people together, and if you lose or the item you are after doesn't drop your still down 90 merits. Even worst is the other scenario where everyone wants to do mithra but you. Five people want to go, so which of the five is going to have to sponsor you? What's stopping them from just getting a sixth who will pay for themselves?

Could you imagine how less popular delve and incursion would be if everyone needed to get a KI every time for people to enter? Sure right now the price of rocks are low, but if the demand increased 6 fold the prices would shoot up with it. And so what if people spam merit fights. Everyone pretty much already have the chapters they need. The only thing of value that would change is the synthesis material, and they aren't even worth that much on my server already. If anything it would be good if those prices went down, then more people could skill up their crafting.

Atm if you do AA with 6 member you'd need 90 merit total, if you change the KI to leader only then you'd only need 15 merits. Which is a game longevity nerf because 90 merits can do 6 EV runs instead of just 1. You need a lot less time to farm merits for the BC and you can do more.

If you've been on this forum long enough, you'd know that I'm usually against game longevity nerf in MMORPG. I support more incentive in content to encourage players to help out, but I usually don't support stuff become easier and faster to get.

I don't think paying merits for other ppl isn't bad idea. Can also make paying gil an option as well.