Is FFXI getting a cash shop?

[Spectreman]

I think subscription based games should NEVER have a cash shop. Where is this going to end?

[Finuve]

I think subscription based games should NEVER have a cash shop. Where is this going to end?

dunno, modern MMO design has dictated that people that enjoy vanity items should have to pay for them instead of collecting in game, and juggernauts like WoW have decided that the leveling process is no longer a worthwhile part of the game and just let you buy your way past it.

[Shirai]

Where is this going to end?

When a cash shop added to it will no longer provide enough extra revenue to keep it up.
Keep in mind that, as I have mentioned before, your money is more important to the company than your petty protests.

And looking at the amount of $24,- Odin horses I see pass by on my Guildwork feed, paired with the plethora of messages of people getting caught in the log in queue the cash shop has already proven more successful in FFXIV than the protests of people saying that they will quit the game over it.
I'm pretty sure that they've already considered adding one to this game, and with the success of the one implemented for XIV implementation is just a matter of time.

[Zephrose]

When a cash shop added to it will no longer provide enough extra revenue to keep it up.
Keep in mind that, as I have mentioned before, your money is more important to the company than your petty protests.

And looking at the amount of $24,- Odin horses I see pass by on my Guildwork feed, paired with the plethora of messages of people getting caught in the log in queue the cash shop has already proven more successful in FFXIV than the protests of people saying that they will quit the game over it.
I'm pretty sure that they've already considered adding one to this game, and with the success of the one implemented for XIV implementation is just a matter of time.

This. +1

A few people squabbling about "No Cash Shop" isn't going to stop them from adding one when literally hundreds of thousands of players are going to race to the shop for exclusive merchandise anyways. Square Enix loves you, sure. But they love your wallet more. That's just business for you. That's not to say they wont treat you nice and wipe your precious little booty for the right price.

[Draylo]

Sorry but they are a business so they will want to make money. Look at all the idiots buying 24 dollar Odin mounts and 40+ dollars on two accounts so they can get their own 2 seat chocobo in FFXIV. The model works unfortunately because of people like that.

[Seillan]

Sorry but they are a business so they will want to make money. Look at all the idiots buying 24 dollar Odin mounts and 40+ dollars on two accounts so they can get their own 2 seat chocobo in FFXIV. The model works unfortunately because of people like that.

Well hopefully, considering that the FFXI playerbase is largely older and "set in their ways", maybe they'll refrain from adding a shop here out of fear of backlash. I'm pretty sure the Japanese FFXI playerbase wouldn't be to keen on it either.

Ultimately though, I guess if the shop ever becomes a necessary evil to keep the game from getting shut down, it'd be the better alternative I suppose.

[Shirai]

Well hopefully, considering that the FFXI playerbase is largely older and "set in their ways", maybe they'll refrain from adding a shop here out of fear of backlash.

I doubt it, I really do.
To be fair, the whole "set in their ways" died long ago, the game has changed and so has a lot of the playerbase and the ones truly set in their old ways quit and moved on long ago.

I'm pretty sure the Japanese FFXI playerbase wouldn't be to keen on it either.

Sorry, but I have to YOINK those rose tinted glasses off.
You are grossly underestimating the willingness of the Japanese when it comes to paying extra for useless trinkets related to something they like, physical or digital doesn't matter.

[Dale]

I doubt it, I really do.
To be fair, the whole "set in their ways" died long ago, the game has changed and so has a lot of the playerbase and the ones truly set in their old ways quit and moved on long ago.

I'm going to have to disagree somewhat because I believe Seillan is making a point I agree with.

A lot of us have been turned off by modern trends in the MMORPG genre and returned home to FF XI. Quite a few of the older players I once knew still play this game, and all of them attempted to get into Final Fantasy 14 but just couldn't. So I really do think the only thing keeping Final Fantasy XI alive at this point is its appeal with older more traditional RPGers who are set in their ways and refuse to change to go along with this new generation of gamers. And to abandon that and give in to modern trends would doom this game I believe.

This game has changed over the years. You are right about that. But it still retains much of its original design and plays very differently to the modern MMORPG. This game still has long term goals and an emphasis on hard work - rewarding the player based on their in-game efforts rather the thickness of their wallet. So I think if they start adding a lot of the modern-day bells and whistles - like cash shops for example - they will be walking a very thin line and risk alienating the very people keeping this game alive.

[Malithar]

Well hopefully, considering that the FFXI playerbase is largely older and "set in their ways", maybe they'll refrain from adding a shop here out of fear of backlash. I'm pretty sure the Japanese FFXI playerbase wouldn't be to keen on it either.

Have to very much disagree. Check out Decazoom Mk-XI and Escritorio, two of the more recent includes with physical merchandise in Japan. Yes, that's an all jobs gun + camera, and an all jobs polearm that looks like a giant quill pen. Neither are within "lore" as some may say, they're very much out of place in the game. While things like these, the Tidal Talisman, various hats and clubs they've given away over the years, etc, were not available directly from a cash shop, they did require further purchases to acquire. Whether it's due to this generation of gamers or whatever you may want to blame, a vast number have no issue with shelling out extra to get something extra, cosmetic or otherwise.

I'd be more surprised if SE doesn't add a cash shop at this point.

[Finuve]

Sorry but they are a business so they will want to make money. Look at all the idiots buying 24 dollar Odin mounts and 40+ dollars on two accounts so they can get their own 2 seat chocobo in FFXIV. The model works unfortunately because of people like that.

I pretty much blame those people for how awful the MMO genre is anymore.

It boggles my mind that people accept getting their wallets pillaged so horribly in a subscription based game